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The "I`ve got it" thread...
- Thread starter JCMaloney
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By way of an aside.............. and as the numbers are relentlessly diminishing... and defcon status is heading towards Two.... 
One of my other "hats" is reporting on speciality performance. We have a very well respected Toxicology service and provide services to Coroners across the UK.
These are NOT Covid deaths, they are sudden, unexplained deaths such as overdoses, suicide etc.
March 2020 - Total cases 225
March 2021 - Total cases 336
Make of that what you will but a 50% increase in other times would normally have folk wondering what is occurring.
One of my other "hats" is reporting on speciality performance. We have a very well respected Toxicology service and provide services to Coroners across the UK.
These are NOT Covid deaths, they are sudden, unexplained deaths such as overdoses, suicide etc.
March 2020 - Total cases 225
March 2021 - Total cases 336
Make of that what you will but a 50% increase in other times would normally have folk wondering what is occurring.
primmiemoo
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- Devon
Oh dear. Pandemics are horrible 
primmiemoo
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- Devon
Heard on the radio that risk of clots from the OAZ vaccine is less than that from an oral contraceptive, so that's one less thing to worry about.
Not surprising but sex is a far more enjoyable activity than preventing Covid 19.
Chopsy Varmint
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I'm sure there's a joke there somewhere along the lines of 'it's just a little p.r.i.c.k you won't feel a thing'...Not surprising but sex is a far more enjoyable activity than preventing Covid 19.
Edited because the rude words filter didn't get the joke and 'plonker' is not an acceptable substitute in this instance
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- Limousin
The bottom line is we don't as yet know the level of risk to the younger population atm as we haven't been vaccinating them in any significant numbers. However, it is very important that this is resolved as the AZ vaccine is the preferred choice (cheap) for rolling out to much of the developing world and consequently populations that fall into the younger age group.
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- LINCOLNSHIRE/KENYA
Younger people probably don’t need to be vaccinated it is only done to protect the old and the so called vulnerable. So once you’ve done that take a break and assess the dangers of this vaccination.
Obviously a lot on here think the young should get what’s coming to them but i am not so sure.
The doubters initially picked up on the fact that the AZ trials had not been conducted on a sufficient number of older people and hence approval was suspended. Now we have a complete reversal. What a bunch of half baked morons. The best possible trial has been the full scale roll out in the UK, which has shown the AZ to be very safe. If there is a suspicion of being linked to blood clots it seems to point to younger females.
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- Limousin
Are you saying this is acceptable risk for protecting older people then?
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- Lincolnshire
I dare say they tried it en masse on the oldies first (myself included) as if something serious goes wrong its less of a loss than wiping out the younger generation. Nothing is ever 100% safe.
Does anybody ever consider though that blood clots can arise due to air injected with the vaccine getting into a blood vessel. Shouldn’t happen but it can if you don’t get the air out of the syringe before injection. That’s why you hold needle point uppermost and tap it to get the air to the stop and maybe squirt a bit out to be sure. If intramuscular we used to stick the needle in first then check for no blood loss to be sure not in a blood vessel then connect the loaded syringe on and inject.
Does anybody ever consider though that blood clots can arise due to air injected with the vaccine getting into a blood vessel. Shouldn’t happen but it can if you don’t get the air out of the syringe before injection. That’s why you hold needle point uppermost and tap it to get the air to the stop and maybe squirt a bit out to be sure. If intramuscular we used to stick the needle in first then check for no blood loss to be sure not in a blood vessel then connect the loaded syringe on and inject.
primmiemoo
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- Devon
The training modules said all that is unnecessary with the covid vaccine because the needles are so fine. The volume of vaccine is so small, and is drawn into the syringe in a specific way that makes any inclusion of air miniscule.
The muscle that's the injection site is away from blood vessels. If there's a teeny dot of blood after vaccination, it can only come from a capillary, so no worries about that.
Without doubt some of the people administering injections have had minimal training and could account for potential problems. Any lives lost are too many but I still think that the statistics show that overall the benefits far outweigh the dangers. I think that vaccinating under 30s may be a step too far and I am certain that very few school children are not already carrying antibodies. Is too much emphasis being placed on infection testing and too little on immunity or antibody testing?
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- Limousin
What you are describing is an embolism rather than a blood clot. Flicking vaccine syringes is more for the television, the risk of air entering the blood stream is generally with high volume things like catheterisation.
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- S E Glos
Sorry, but that's no way to run a medical trial.
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- LINCOLNSHIRE/KENYA
It is if you can convince the participants that they will die without it.
Mr Mackay
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- HMP Slade , Shropshire
Not sure what some of you want??
If you dont want the vaccine and cant play ball with what youre being asked to do - then as Father Ted would say Fupp off
If you dont want the vaccine and cant play ball with what youre being asked to do - then as Father Ted would say Fupp off
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No he’d say feck off.