Don’t worry petal, the rest of us normal people have stepped into the breach, taken the vaccine and de facto cleared the danger for you.
You can stop cowering behind the couch and come out now. It’s safe.
The "I`ve got it" thread...
- Thread starter JCMaloney
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Don’t worry petal, the rest of us normal people have stepped into the breach, taken the vaccine and de facto cleared the danger for you.
You can stop cowering behind the couch and come out now. It’s safe.
kiwi pom
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Interesting to note, without being overly specific, the age range of our positive inpatients has shifted a fair bit. Locally it is close to 60% "over 50" and 40% "under 40".
77 inpatients.
15 on mechanical ventilation
Deaths are now relatively rare occurrences just the odd one or two so a much lower percentage.
On the bright side I`m isolating having had a PCR yesterday ahead of surgery on Friday.
Took a late cancellation appointment as the consultant has a waiting list of 1,500.
Sometimes being "in the job" has some perks, it`ll get me put on a "sickness target" but it's a small price to pay.
Given that not everyone is vaccinated and cases are still very high, I wonder why the death rate is so low?
Better medical treatment, different recording or perhaps Delta is easier to catch but less deadly?
kiwi pom
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Vaccinated people can still catch and spread the virus.
I think one of the 5 Aussie deaths the other day was vaccinated all be it one dose of AZ.
Another death was an unvaccinated man in his 20's with no underlying health problems.
There has been 7 deaths linked to the AZ vaccine there too.
Covid isn't going to disappear any time soon, new variants will appear, vaccinated or not.
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- Northern Ireland
The vaccine is about two things. Direct reduction of illness/death in the individual, and eventual marginalisation of the disease through collective immunity leaving it with few hosts.
Therefore, the first point is a question of balance - which is is likely to be the least worst option for me, whilst living in a very connected and social world where I'm unlikely to outrun the virus in the long term? Whatever concerns there might be about serious lasting vaccine side effects (and they are clearly found in very low numbers), the concerns over the effects of disease are many multiples greater.
As for variants. Mutations, which combine to form new variants, form at X rate per X number of virus replications. Therefore the greater the level of virus out there circulating and replicating in hosts, the greater the number of mutations will form over time. It's in everyone's interest to have less replications happening. How? Have the virus shut down quickly by immune systems each time it tries to jump host. Or we could all sit at home for the remainder of our lives.
Therefore, the first point is a question of balance - which is is likely to be the least worst option for me, whilst living in a very connected and social world where I'm unlikely to outrun the virus in the long term? Whatever concerns there might be about serious lasting vaccine side effects (and they are clearly found in very low numbers), the concerns over the effects of disease are many multiples greater.
As for variants. Mutations, which combine to form new variants, form at X rate per X number of virus replications. Therefore the greater the level of virus out there circulating and replicating in hosts, the greater the number of mutations will form over time. It's in everyone's interest to have less replications happening. How? Have the virus shut down quickly by immune systems each time it tries to jump host. Or we could all sit at home for the remainder of our lives.
Oh dear.
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What danger?
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- Northern Ireland
Ask this lady. Oh no, sorry, you can't unless you have access to a medium.
I'm not cowering anywhere. It's the gimps in masks who are terrified. The 'normal' people. Probably the same ones who could easily be convinced to lead certain people to the 'showers'.
primmiemoo
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India's experience is that delta is more deadly in the young, so low deaths will probably be in the treatment. The least intensive treatment is more involved than a nice glass of honey and lemon juice in hot water, with a paracetamol chaser for a touch of the flu, as well.
How countries with insufficient vaccine will continue to cope doesn't bear thinking about. Covid is ripping through Malaysia with very high deaths. Whole rural villages empty because people are in hospital, or have died. We don't hear a peep about it.
That can’t be true there’s a bloke on the farming forum has told me it’s no worse than a bit of a sniffle.
Mr Mackay
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essex man
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How many people died in January per day "of covid", how many today?Or just another seasonal respiratory virus. What season was that?
Nobody was vaccinated in January
essex man
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Last august?
We were on holiday , as we are now , how's Chelmsford , ha ha
Charlie Gill
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Delta?
essex man
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This time last year covid wasn't a highly contagious virus?
Charlie Gill
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You'll have to remind me, I was too busy 'eating out to help out' the publicans
kiwi pom
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My concern is, what numbers do we need to reach herd immunity and what does it matter if vaccinated people can still catch and spread the virus, all be it without getting too sick for the moment.
The amount of people vaccinated in countries like the UK and US combined with the amount of people exposed to the virus must be huge now but cases are still high.
Getting vaccinated makes a lot of sense to me but I think in treating this as a pandemic of the unvaccinated, we're just looking for someone to blame.
I find it quite disturbing how people are becoming more hostile to those who don't want the jab, when we don't even know much about how the virus is circulating in vaccinated people.