The "I`ve got it" thread...

[Highland Mule]

For one, the chap who invented the technology behind it, Robert Malone. Also former Vice President of Pfixer, Michael Yeadon. Loads more whose names escape me since mainstream media deny their existence.

You do know that Yeadon wasn’t actually VP of all Pfizer, but just a minor division that was shut down in 2011, don’t you? Reportedly, he’s never actually worked on vaccines or infectious diseases.

 

[Highland Mule]

So If a previously respected scientist voices a concern or opinion without having it published then his credibility has vanished?

No, assuming that the opinion relates to his area of published expertise. I wouldn’t take advice on nuclear physics from a biologist, for instance.

 

[Guleesh]

No, assuming that the opinion relates to his area of published expertise. I wouldn’t take advice on nuclear physics from a biologist, for instance.

Would you take advice from a virologist on a virus then?

 

[Highland Mule]

Would you take advice from a virologist on a virus then?

If it was a competent virologist and the advice was within their specialism.

 

[RushesToo]

Would you take advice from a virologist on a virus then?

Depending on what aspect they worked on and how mature the science was - if less mature a bit more reading and some questions before I made up my mind. My questions might get answered from them or from academic papers. But I would take it of value.

 

[Charlie Gill]

Covid-19: politicisation, “corruption,” and suppression of science

When good science is suppressed by the medical-political complex, people die Politicians and governments are suppressing science. They do so in the public interest, they say, to accelerate availability of diagnostics and treatments. They do so to support innovation, to bring products to market...

www.bmj.com

Good that we have people keeping an eye on things eh.

 

[essex man]

No, assuming that the opinion relates to his area of published expertise. I wouldn’t take advice on nuclear physics from a biologist, for instance.

Do you believe that all these people have the same opinion as each other and you about c19, policies and vaccines?

 

[Guleesh]

@Guleesh I am sorry if that post wasn't utterly clear - what I wanted to say is

• Take your own decisions
• You should be happy that they are informed decisions
• Your decision will have an affect on the gene pool

I am sorry if that at any point you thought I was telling you what to think. That was most certainly NOT my intention.

I don't mind, no need to apologise. Have to say though that I don't think that people obeying Phd 7 year experience scientists or not is going to make a noticeable difference in the genepool.

 

[Guleesh]

If it was a competent virologist and the advice was within their specialism.

But if they gave opinion outside of their specialism, then their credibility is gone right?

 

[Highland Mule]

But if they gave opinion outside of their specialism, then their credibility is gone right?

Will you please stop trying to put words in my mouth?

But to answer your question, I’d say that their opinion is degraded by the level of departure from said specialism. I’d value my physicist friends opinion on black holes ahead of that of my chemist friends, obviously, and both ahead of my musician friends.

 

[Highland Mule]

Do you believe that all these people have the same opinion as each other and you about c19, policies and vaccines?

Which people?

 

[The Agrarian]

My daughter in law is a bio-chemist, and knowing my conditions, she did some research. At the time I had the AZ, not a lot was known, and the then current research pointed towards those with autoimmune conditions were not at risk of any side effects of the vaccine.
The race to get us oldies jabbed meant there was no screening, no medical questions asked. If I had been given a choice to either hide away or be at risk of a stroke, I would have chosen the former as I like solitude.

I know of couple who isolated themselves during the first lockdown, and ended up with the virus.

It depends upon how long you are prepared to hide away for. The next five, ten, fifteen years? Because the virus looks like it will be waiting for you for much of that time.

 

[Guleesh]

Will you please stop trying to put words in my mouth?

But to answer your question, I’d say that their opinion is degraded by the level of departure from said specialism. I’d value my physicist friends opinion on black holes ahead of that of my chemist friends, obviously, and both ahead of my musician friends.

None of them are credible.

 

[essex man]

Which people?

The people whose opinions on c19 you consider to be valid?
Because within their specialty etc..

 

[Mouser]

I know of couple who isolated themselves during the first lockdown, and ended up with the virus.

It depends upon how long you are prepared to hide away for. The next five, ten, fifteen years? Because the virus looks like it will be waiting for you for much of that time.

Oh have a bit of optimism for goodness sake! Considering how little is known about what has gone on in the last year who knows what will happen next.

 

[essex man]

Will you please stop trying to put words in my mouth?

But to answer your question, I’d say that their opinion is degraded by the level of departure from said specialism. I’d value my physicist friends opinion on black holes ahead of that of my chemist friends, obviously, and both ahead of my musician friends.

Do you think any politician has an opinion on c19 policy that is worth listening to?

 

[Highland Mule]

Do you think any politician has an opinion on c19 policy that is worth listening to?

On policy? On seeing a bigger picture and none of the detail? Why of course. But I’m not aware of any of them who have the detail sussed - they do have better access to the brains than the media, and you and I do though, that’s obvious.

 

[essex man]

On policy? On seeing a bigger picture and none of the detail? Why of course. But I’m not aware of any of them who have the detail sussed - they do have better access to the brains than the media, and you and I do though, that’s obvious.

Going to answer my other question?

 

[Highland Mule]

Going to answer my other question?

Which one? Remind me.

 

[Princess Pooper]

Interesting. It also seems to affect those of us who have autoimmune conditions.

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-launches-study-extra-covid-19-vaccine-dose-people-autoimmune-disease.

It is likely it is the medication not the underlying autoimmune disease that is suppressing the immune response. For those of us taking immunosuppressive medication (my disease and my medication are covered by this trial) we have been warned all along that the medication is likely to suppress our immune response. I asked my rheumatologist even before my first jab if I should come off my meds and was advised not to in case it caused disease flare which in itself be life threatening. At that stage they had no evidence that we might not form antibodies, just an expectation.

After all, that’s what immunosuppressants do, reduce white blood cells and the effectiveness of your immune system. I will await results with interest. I suspect it may need a longer ‘holiday’ from the medication to get a really good response.