The New Brexit Party

So what am I missing here, genuine question, but how does having a Euro sceptic party (2 with UKIP) trying to fill the EU parliament with anti EU MEPs help the UK leave the EU? Let's say they get a few hundred elected, what do they then achieve apart from standing in Brussels shouting abuse at other MEPs to the point the EU then throw out the UK - is that the plan? Otherwise what is plan? After all the EU signed Mays deal but the UK parliament didn't, so maybe we should have elected more eurosceptic MPs in the 2017 elections - after all the 500+ remain MPs were elected after the ref and with the help of a shed load of Brexiteers votes. Perhaps I'm having a dumb moment but I don't see the logic?
 

7610 super q

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
So what am I missing here, genuine question, but how does having a Euro sceptic party (2 with UKIP) trying to fill the EU parliament with anti EU MEPs help the UK leave the EU? Let's say they get a few hundred elected, what do they then achieve apart from standing in Brussels shouting abuse at other MEPs to the point the EU then throw out the UK - is that the plan? Otherwise what is plan? After all the EU signed Mays deal but the UK parliament didn't, so maybe we should have elected more eurosceptic MPs in the 2017 elections - after all the 500+ remain MPs were elected after the ref and with the help of a shed load of Brexiteers votes. Perhaps I'm having a dumb moment but I don't see the logic?
£350 million will find it's way back to the UK via MEP's pensions.;):ROFLMAO:
 

Jackov Altraids

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
So what am I missing here, genuine question, but how does having a Euro sceptic party (2 with UKIP) trying to fill the EU parliament with anti EU MEPs help the UK leave the EU? Let's say they get a few hundred elected, what do they then achieve apart from standing in Brussels shouting abuse at other MEPs to the point the EU then throw out the UK - is that the plan? Otherwise what is plan? After all the EU signed Mays deal but the UK parliament didn't, so maybe we should have elected more eurosceptic MPs in the 2017 elections - after all the 500+ remain MPs were elected after the ref and with the help of a shed load of Brexiteers votes. Perhaps I'm having a dumb moment but I don't see the logic?

You are right... it is illogical.

This is why Continental democracy doesn't work. There is no other mechanism for voters to voice their dissatisfaction or desire to leave.
As I have repeated many times, the leave / remain vote does not in any way match the left / right spectrum of our political system. Most people can't vote in a general election for someone they agree with on both issues which is why they should have been kept separate.
In 2017, many voters felt they could finally vote for their political choice as we were assured that the matter of EU membership had been decided.
 

renewablejohn

Member
Location
lancs
The main parties are really missing a trick here.They know there going to have very poor results so it would be far better for them all to abstein and just leave two parties called Mays Deal and No Deal. Then the public can decide what MP's are not capable of.
 

Werzle

Member
Location
Midlands
So what am I missing here, genuine question, but how does having a Euro sceptic party (2 with UKIP) trying to fill the EU parliament with anti EU MEPs help the UK leave the EU? Let's say they get a few hundred elected, what do they then achieve apart from standing in Brussels shouting abuse at other MEPs to the point the EU then throw out the UK - is that the plan? Otherwise what is plan? After all the EU signed Mays deal but the UK parliament didn't, so maybe we should have elected more eurosceptic MPs in the 2017 elections - after all the 500+ remain MPs were elected after the ref and with the help of a shed load of Brexiteers votes. Perhaps I'm having a dumb moment but I don't see the logic?
If you deny democracy , what do you expect? voters are going to vote brexit party in a mini re-run referendum/protest vote. The conservative party are finished , labour are stagnated , democrats are pathetic and ukip are nothing without farage. Conservatives only hope is to vote boris in as pm because the public like him but hammond looks the more likely which will loose them the next election.
 

Muck Spreader

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
If you deny democracy , what do you expect? voters are going to vote brexit party in a mini re-run referendum/protest vote. The conservative party are finished , labour are stagnated , democrats are pathetic and ukip are nothing without farage. Conservatives only hope is to vote boris in as pm because the public like him but hammond looks the more likely which will loose them the next election.

IMO the only people who like Boris are the Tory Gammons, because he reminds them of a Poundshop Churchill.
 
If you deny democracy , what do you expect? voters are going to vote brexit party in a mini re-run referendum/protest vote. The conservative party are finished , labour are stagnated , democrats are pathetic and ukip are nothing without farage. Conservatives only hope is to vote boris in as pm because the public like him but hammond looks the more likely which will loose them the next election.
So brexiteers are going to elect members of a parliament they want nothing to do with? Still don’t get it. Hats off to Nige though, all the minions throwing their £50s at him so he get elected to a parliament he “hates” so can continue to draw is EU salary without doing anything except ranting - good work Nigel.
 

Scribus

Member
Location
Central Atlantic
So brexiteers are going to elect members of a parliament they want nothing to do with? Still don’t get it. Hats off to Nige though, all the minions throwing their £50s at him so he get elected to a parliament he “hates” so can continue to draw is EU salary without doing anything except ranting - good work Nigel.

Infiltrating behind enemy lines is a well known tactic of warfare!
 

Derrick Hughes

Member
Location
Ceredigion
So what am I missing here, genuine question, but how does having a Euro sceptic party (2 with UKIP) trying to fill the EU parliament with anti EU MEPs help the UK leave the EU? Let's say they get a few hundred elected, what do they then achieve apart from standing in Brussels shouting abuse at other MEPs to the point the EU then throw out the UK - is that the plan? Otherwise what is plan? After all the EU signed Mays deal but the UK parliament didn't, so maybe we should have elected more eurosceptic MPs in the 2017 elections - after all the 500+ remain MPs were elected after the ref and with the help of a shed load of Brexiteers votes. Perhaps I'm having a dumb moment but I don't see the logic?
Like they said yesterday the New Brexit party is not just about leaving the EU
But anyone who feels cheated can at least use a protest vote, be interesting to see how many they get
 

caveman

Member
Location
East Sussex.
So what am I missing here, genuine question, but how does having a Euro sceptic party (2 with UKIP) trying to fill the EU parliament with anti EU MEPs help the UK leave the EU? Let's say they get a few hundred elected, what do they then achieve apart from standing in Brussels shouting abuse at other MEPs to the point the EU then throw out the UK - is that the plan? Otherwise what is plan? After all the EU signed Mays deal but the UK parliament didn't, so maybe we should have elected more eurosceptic MPs in the 2017 elections - after all the 500+ remain MPs were elected after the ref and with the help of a shed load of Brexiteers votes. Perhaps I'm having a dumb moment but I don't see the logic?
I wouldn't worry too much about the Brexit party or UKIP.
They're just a bunch of pussies in comparison to what's likely to be voted into the EU parliament from many of our friendly EU states.
Big shake up coming.
 
Infiltrating behind enemy lines is a well known tactic of warfare!
I didn't know Brexit was about starting a "war" with the EU, and as they signed Mays WA why the need to go to "war" with them when the problems with finding a way out the door is closer to home. I also find it a bit stupid Farage is calling his party the Brexit party when he claims it about shaking up the 'two party' system in the long term, as such if he is going for a long term polictial party then he needs to bridge the political divide and entice voters from all parties and all sides of the Brexit divide - and plan beyond "Brexit". As it is, it just sounds like a one issue protest party and not a political party for the long haul. Anyway, that's my thoughts. Bed!
 

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
I didn't know Brexit was about starting a "war" with the EU, and as they signed Mays WA why the need to go to "war" with them when the problems with finding a way out the door is closer to home. I also find it a bit stupid Farage is calling his party the Brexit party when he claims it about shaking up the 'two party' system in the long term, as such if he is going for a long term polictial party then he needs to bridge the political divide and entice voters from all parties and all sides of the Brexit divide - and plan beyond "Brexit". As it is, it just sounds like a one issue protest party and not a political party for the long haul. Anyway, that's my thoughts. Bed!


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