The Red Tractor ACCS referendum

[Henarar]

Red Tractor seem to be extremely good at dodging the main point that until British Food across the board attracts a premium for being RT assured its taking away from British Agriculture. Now if RT assured food attracted a meaningful premium I doubt this debate would have got off the floor. British food has to be produced to legal standards, and that should be the end of it; until a processor or end customer comes along and requires RT but will in turn give the producer a premium.
Jim Moseley's assertion today that it is the most recognised brand in UK agriculture is false, the Union Jack is the biggest brand logo British Agriculture has and always will have.
The only ray of light I saw today was it doesn't look like DEFRA will allow RT to police ELMs
Otherwise I feel that as Jim Moseley suggested when talking about funding, farmers are becoming less important as we will make up less than 50% of red tractor funding by next year, so we are going to become takers of more and more regulation by RT. Only way to stop it is to destroy it.

How could RT police ELM's unless ELM's was linked to production

 

[steveR]

Don't think he liked the question.

Roberts is toeing the Party Line, as is being seen in the message coming downhill to the Provinces..

 

[Henarar]

Roberts is toeing the Party Line, as is being seen coming downhill to the Provinces..

And after he said that the NFU could tell RT what to do, you would think he would be up for what the members want wouldn't you

 

[Richard Budd]

How could RT police ELM's unless ELM's was linked to production

I am not sure now they could police ELMs considering their currnet audit is 85/90% paperwork. However, the way that Moseley spoke yesterday it had obviously been an aspiration of his.

 

[Two Tone]

Nfu webinar today on red tractor consultation. I Asked Stuart Roberts (industry director on red tractor board and Nfu deputy president ) would the Nfu hold a vote on an equal to imports scheme run by the AHDB, and if it was found to be in favour by the majority of members would the Nfu back the out come. Answer. l don’t think we need a separate scheme and moved onto next question Very quickly, Every other question got at least a 2 minute response.

That is absolutely appalling and utterly disgraceful!

It just about sums them up.
How would anybody want to be a part of or remain as a member of any such organisation?

 

[redbaron]

Jim Mosely would very much like to introduce technology to allow remote, anytime, access to farm records. In his words "the farmer wouldn't even need to be aware". It's becoming more and more Orwellian.

 

[Old apprentice]

Next thay would be wanting to have cameras to watch what we are doing!!!!

 

[An Gof]

Jim Mosely would very much like to introduce technology to allow remote, anytime, access to farm records. In his words "the farmer wouldn't even need to be aware". It's becoming more and more Orwellian.

Somebody seriously needs to tell Moseley to “jog on”.
There are few people with such an inane smile and grin who irritate me so much.

 

[ploughman1963]

I see the latest red tractor survey didn’t ask whether it’s members read TFF

 

[Steevo]

Somebody seriously needs to tell Moseley to “jog on”.
There are few people with such an inane smile and grin who irritate me so much.

His picture reminds me of a used car salesman.

 

[Henarar]

Jim Mosely would very much like to introduce technology to allow remote, anytime, access to farm records. In his words "the farmer wouldn't even need to be aware". It's becoming more and more Orwellian.

Two words
The second one is off

 

[tullah]

Crazy thing is the NFU just give it the nod. The destruction of RT and organisations that support them is in our hands. It's up to us now to use our trump card.

 

[stroller]

Somebody seriously needs to tell Moseley to “jog on”.
There are few people with such an inane smile and grin who irritate me so much.

A face you could never tire of punching?

 

[MrNoo]

Somebody seriously needs to tell Moseley to “jog on”.
There are few people with such an inane smile and grin who irritate me so much.

Gordon Brown and that idiot Blair, the sort of face you want to punch

 

[graham mc]

phone call from local council today
need to come and look at one of your sites next week they want to look at a temp grainstore.
ok i say but ive been red tractor inspected last year yes he says but we need to check everything as it should be
field records temp records and rodent control

normally id do my nut but i thought 20 mins might be wort getting another nail for the red tractor coffin

be interesting to quiz the council man

seams like produced to uk law and standards is the future why be audited if the local council have to do it any way

 

[steveR]

phone call from local council today
need to come and look at one of your sites next week they want to look at a temp grainstore.
ok i say but ive been red tractor inspected last year yes he says but we need to check everything as it should be
field records temp records and rodent control

normally id do my nut but i thought 20 mins might be wort getting another nail for the red tractor coffin

be interesting to quiz the council man

seams like produced to uk law and standards is the future why be audited if the local council have to do it any way

Amazed that you have enough Council staff to call and see you....

Did they ask what type of farming you were carrying out?

 

[snarling bee]

Crazy thing is the NFU just give it the nod.

Well that is where you are wrong.

 

[snarling bee]

Crazy thing is the NFU just give it the nod. The destruction of RT and organisations that support them is in our hands. It's up to us now to use our trump card.

Well that is where you are wrong.
Not everything you read on TFF is correct.

 

[tullah]

I think on this issue I'm right. Can we just agree to disagree.

 

[spin cycle]

Well that is where you are wrong.
Not everything you read on TFF is correct.

our 'great leader' didn't even mention rt consultation in her podcast this week....blimey it was loada drivel