- Location
- North Yorkshire
His job is on the line of course he is going to sing the praises of Red Tractor
The Red Tractor ACCS referendum
- Thread starter Clive
- Start date
- Location
- Herefordshire
Backstabbers!!!!!!!!!!
- Location
- Herefordshire
I do sincerely hope so.
- Location
- Yorks
No big long email to write this evening for a change, so thought I'd relax and have a beer.
There was a red tractor on it.
Thankfully not Jim Mosley's one! Checked rear of label, no RT logo there either.
There was a red tractor on it.
Thankfully not Jim Mosley's one! Checked rear of label, no RT logo there either.
I hope it slips down nicely...
- Location
- Bedfordshire
[email protected] feel free to introduce yourselves and make your point direct to the man himself.
SilliamWhale
Member
I tried to get christine tacons email and they wouldn't give it
- Location
- Bedfordshire
You are a member? Demand it! christine.tacon@.......................
- Location
- Cirencester
She's on Twatter
Of course she is, the media of choice for pronouncements to their fellows.
- Location
- Essex
She is a director of Anglia Farmers. Or The AF Group as it is now known
- Location
- Mid Norfolk
Dim Mosely needs a history lesson.
Red Tractor was preceded by several retailer market access schemes in the early to mid 1990s in a response to falling consumer confidence in British produce following high profile food scandals like salmonella and BSE. In the late '90s these were mostly amalgamated into umbrella schemes such as FABBL, ACCS and Genesis.
In my opinion these worked well because there was always another competing assurance scheme in your sector that would be happy to have your membership in the event that you didn't the direction your own was heading (I seem to recall us moving away from an ASDA/McDonalds scheme as the movement limitations were causing us supply issues).
RT was nothing more than another consolidation exercise to standardise the assurance rules, reduce duplication of inspections and the associated burden.
They have failed at every step. The "food safety" side to the rules haven't really evolved in two decades. I'm still keeping the same medicine, movement, chemical and welfare stuff that I was in 1998. I still have duplication of inspections, somehow made worse following the introduction of the stupid tablet based software for inspectors. I also now have the additional burden of environmental rules, staff welfare rules, health and safety rules and so much more gold plated far beyond statutory law.
On top of this, most likely due to the omnipresence of RT, we are seeing the steady re-introduction of retailer and processor schemes that we must comply with on top of RT for access to their markets. In its final massive failure it hasn't even been able to see off the thing it was created to supersede.
By becoming ubiquitous, it has become superfluous.
Red Tractor was preceded by several retailer market access schemes in the early to mid 1990s in a response to falling consumer confidence in British produce following high profile food scandals like salmonella and BSE. In the late '90s these were mostly amalgamated into umbrella schemes such as FABBL, ACCS and Genesis.
In my opinion these worked well because there was always another competing assurance scheme in your sector that would be happy to have your membership in the event that you didn't the direction your own was heading (I seem to recall us moving away from an ASDA/McDonalds scheme as the movement limitations were causing us supply issues).
RT was nothing more than another consolidation exercise to standardise the assurance rules, reduce duplication of inspections and the associated burden.
They have failed at every step. The "food safety" side to the rules haven't really evolved in two decades. I'm still keeping the same medicine, movement, chemical and welfare stuff that I was in 1998. I still have duplication of inspections, somehow made worse following the introduction of the stupid tablet based software for inspectors. I also now have the additional burden of environmental rules, staff welfare rules, health and safety rules and so much more gold plated far beyond statutory law.
On top of this, most likely due to the omnipresence of RT, we are seeing the steady re-introduction of retailer and processor schemes that we must comply with on top of RT for access to their markets. In its final massive failure it hasn't even been able to see off the thing it was created to supersede.
By becoming ubiquitous, it has become superfluous.
A few years ago I had a few beans left my asurance had run out I had tried to sell the but no success before, then I contacted a very well known firm someone called and took a sample took them no problem with out of date sticker. Next time assesor came just said it was up to them , interesting .
- Location
- Somerset UK
More on message from the NFU (agronomist and arable farmer), RT is good we need it, what other well paid cushy jobs are the NFU top brass going to do?
- Location
- Mid Norfolk
Yet more insinuation that the protests against RT are just and "echo chamber" and that to not be an RT member is to NOT produce to minimum standards, ie, unless we are actively policed, we will all start breaking the law.
tullah
Member
- Location
- Linconshire
If I was an unemployable nobody and my job depended on RT dishing out the money to me every month then I would write that rubbish too. Morals wouldn't come into it.
The problem with that piece is that so much emphasis is placed on the customer but if you ask the customer to pay for it all they aren't interested, whether that's the supermarket or the shopper.
Make RT optional with a premium so that it's market driven rather than a protection racket and we'll see it's worth and pay to improve our business if the advantage is there.
Why do we have to pay for something that brings nothing to our business other than being a compulsory (in many cases) member of a club that is foisted on us by the people who are supposed to look after our interests.
Make RT optional with a premium so that it's market driven rather than a protection racket and we'll see it's worth and pay to improve our business if the advantage is there.
Why do we have to pay for something that brings nothing to our business other than being a compulsory (in many cases) member of a club that is foisted on us by the people who are supposed to look after our interests.
Yes we are thinking about it as well.