- Location
- Welshpool Powys
Less is sometimes more @Kiwi Pete
The urge to grow
- Thread starter Dan Powell
- Start date
Is that you Billy?
apology accepted... now run for it....
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
Yes, imagine if we were so freed-up that instead of being driven to grow our concerns, we were free to grow ourself and the people around us.
Wonderful opportunities around us and "oh but I can't" is what stops us, imagine if that didn't stop us?
What would that be like? What would the future be like?
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Whenever a neighbouring farm came up for sale my grandfather would say “no, leave it , there’s a good living to be had for somebody else there”.
That’s probably why we are stuck at 200 acres but TBH I’m not sorry about that at all.
That’s probably why we are stuck at 200 acres but TBH I’m not sorry about that at all.
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
The thing is, space gets infected. I asked my dentist to tell me all about her job and "what's with root canals costing so much"?
She said "you have to be very thorough in your work because if you leave a tiny space for something, it gets infected" and suddenly I GOT all about addictions and the suffering in the world.
It's where we aren't whole and complete within ourselves.
While we're left wondering what someone else might think if we shared our fears, sold off a bit or all of our farms, reached out to someone we had a tiff with in the past - it's not even our consideration stopping us.
It's us considering what their consideration of us, might be. How bloody absurd that that's a part of what stops us. All that past, getting in the way of the moment, whether we see it that way or not.
What if the buck stops here?
What if we find the courage to reach out to those we thought we left behind, and cleaned it up?
What if we did the stuff we told ourself we could never do, would that be an opening for being the person we told ourself we could never be?
It's what we don't know that we don't know that has us stuck, so more of what we know and more of what we can find out about, isn't the salvation it's cracked up to be.
Thanks so much @Dan Powell (you amazing human being) for starting this thread as I have been present to exactly that, yes be driven to grow.
But grow what?
The field in which I grow my f**ks has had a bad bad couple of years.
She said "you have to be very thorough in your work because if you leave a tiny space for something, it gets infected" and suddenly I GOT all about addictions and the suffering in the world.
It's where we aren't whole and complete within ourselves.
While we're left wondering what someone else might think if we shared our fears, sold off a bit or all of our farms, reached out to someone we had a tiff with in the past - it's not even our consideration stopping us.
It's us considering what their consideration of us, might be. How bloody absurd that that's a part of what stops us. All that past, getting in the way of the moment, whether we see it that way or not.
What if the buck stops here?
What if we find the courage to reach out to those we thought we left behind, and cleaned it up?
What if we did the stuff we told ourself we could never do, would that be an opening for being the person we told ourself we could never be?
It's what we don't know that we don't know that has us stuck, so more of what we know and more of what we can find out about, isn't the salvation it's cracked up to be.
Thanks so much @Dan Powell (you amazing human being) for starting this thread as I have been present to exactly that, yes be driven to grow.
But grow what?
The field in which I grow my f**ks has had a bad bad couple of years.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Spot on Pete.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
I’m over the land owning thing to be honest. I really am. It’s not really relevant. I’ve been as happy in a rented room “owning” Jack sh!t.
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
That's what we're up to as well, mate.
Owning a farm was fun.
Being free from it will be fun too.
I've already had so many opportunities given, and turned them down, and now I get to do what I never even thought possible - fix a desert, lead the way for others, and play the game of life as a game.
I want to be the guy that in the future people look back and say " it all began when the Blair family moved into the district, and life was never the same around here.
sh!t, it just made all the difference " and it's not about who can go in the straightest line.
That's not "the gift", in my opinion.
No disrespect, but on the tree thread you said a 100 acre wheat field with a big shed was your idea of perfection.
glasshouse
Member
- Location
- lothians
Tin hat on
Frencch farmers have security of tenure or ownership, and yhe local mayor has the casting vote on who buys a farm.
Result is that french farmers do not covet thy neighbours farm and just co operate to reduce costs
Contrast with uk where landlord tenant system for centuries has pitted farmer against farmer as no one had security.
Frencch farmers have security of tenure or ownership, and yhe local mayor has the casting vote on who buys a farm.
Result is that french farmers do not covet thy neighbours farm and just co operate to reduce costs
Contrast with uk where landlord tenant system for centuries has pitted farmer against farmer as no one had security.
ollie989898
Member
Well I’ve got the urge to retire but I haven’t the time to busy
As I tell my old man, there is a lot of mortality associated with retirement.
People generally retire too late, that’s the problem . They are too old and knackered to do much else.
Retiring from farming in my early 60s has been a breath of fresh air .
Yeah you see a lot of farmers retire and drop off there perch, I most certainly don’t intend to do nowt just do the things I haven’t time to do now.
- Location
- somerset
just been to 3 70th birthday parties, in one bash.
From about 50 yrs ago, we would have thought 70 yr olds were well past it, today, thinking a lot look quite fit, fitter than me ! And a few looked pretty ancient.
its how you perceive age, it definitely changes as you age, not sure why ................
events conspired to make us take backward steps in farming, and we don't mind at all. But what really pees me off, is when we were land hungry, it was difficult to find any, unless at ridiculous rents. We expect to lose some land, when, we don't quite know, but since down sizing, we have been offered, and taken, extra land, at low rents
. It would appear some owners would rather see it 'properly' farmed, than take the money.having just read the posts above, l have officially passed the reins, class myself as a 'consultant' ! But, l still enjoy farming, we think alike on many things, and for that, l class myself as lucky. Best of both worlds, l don't have to go out when the weathers shite !
No need to apologise, but I too am not making myself as clear as I should and your comment illustrates what I was referring to. A destination is a fixed point, increasing scale is a process, if you accept a process as a destination then it follows that you must accept that the process should ideally go on indefinitely as there is no destination (or goal) or end point. If someone believes that you must increase scale to survive ( ie to compete, and if you don't compete your business / farm dies) then. There is some logic in the in statement "to reach my goal I must first survive", but if the only way to survive is constant increases in scale then it allows that only a few will succeed as that process depends on the failure of the many to allow the success of the few. I suppose what I'm driving at is the notion that expansion is a phase of a life cycle, it cannot go on for ever, and whilst I am definitely not against expansion, I do not see it as a goal in itself, which is what you were driving at in the first place. My head is overheating now and getting confused.