The war in Ukraine...

[Mr Mackay]

Does my brain in that I can touch the button on my phone or laptop here in Switzerland & the camera moves immediately.

What use are you to them , over there ?!!

 

[BrianV]

What use are you to them , over there ?!!

Means the sons can get a good nights sleep unless there’s a serious problem that I spot, Belties are usually pretty good re calving, occasional heifer may need a hand if so I phone & wake one of the guys

 

[DrWazzock]

Does my brain in that I can touch the button on my phone or laptop here in Switzerland & the camera moves immediately.

Are you stroking a white cat as well in your control room?

 

[DrWazzock]

It would need playback for lambing to work out who belongs to who.

 

[Robbt]

And FWIW I never did believe the Russian bear would allow the west to take power in Ukraine without a fight. The whole thing was set rolling years ago when the Russian puppet president was toppled and the EU sought to remove Ukraine from Russias orbit into its own. I mean really what did people expect?

Why only go back that far?Start in 1994 and work forward.The West hasn t taken power in Ukraine, Ukraine is sovereign and decided their own direction.Ukraine having a Russian puppet president would have set this rolling since Russia made a promise not to meddle in Ukraine affairs.Did the EU seek to remove Ukraine from Russian orbit or did Ukraine desire to move away from Russian influence?The answers are is obvious I think.

Budapest Memorandum - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Werzle]

Putins interview quite interesting, half of it was a history lesson. Seemed very relaxed about the war, seems willing to drag it on and see who runs out of men and money first. Happy for a deal and happy not to make ukraine or Nato look like they have been defeated. Thinks americas involvement and its 33 trillion debt is madness, reckons bill clinton talked about russia joining Nato when he was president. Three very interested points he made 1) ukrainians and russians will be friends again just like the germans have been accepted back as friends (2) reckons the world is like a humans brain, it all needs to work and get along to function best. Called the war a disease in this world brain. (3) Any foreign soldiers being officially sent to fight will end in nuclear war and the end of humanity.

Job to see and end without a deal, going to cost alot more money and lives if it carries on down the same path without a sign of victory for either side

 

[HatsOff]

Putins interview quite interesting, half of it was a history lesson. Seemed very relaxed about the war, seems willing to drag it on and see who runs out of men and money first. Happy for a deal and happy not to make ukraine or Nato look like they have been defeated. Thinks americas involvement and its 33 trillion debt is madness, reckons bill clinton talked about russia joining Nato when he was president. Three very interested points he made 1) ukrainians and russians will be friends again just like the germans have been accepted back as friends (2) reckons the world is like a humans brain, it all needs to work and get along to function best. Called the war a disease in this world brain. (3) Any foreign soldiers being officially sent to fight will end in nuclear war and the end of humanity.

Job to see and end without a deal, going to cost alot more money and lives if it carries on down the same path without a sign of victory for either side

If he doesn't like the war he can end it tomorrow by withdrawing soldiers out of the internationally recognised borders of Ukraine.

 

[Muck Spreader]

Putins interview quite interesting, half of it was a history lesson. Seemed very relaxed about the war, seems willing to drag it on and see who runs out of men and money first. Happy for a deal and happy not to make ukraine or Nato look like they have been defeated. Thinks americas involvement and its 33 trillion debt is madness, reckons bill clinton talked about russia joining Nato when he was president. Three very interested points he made 1) ukrainians and russians will be friends again just like the germans have been accepted back as friends (2) reckons the world is like a humans brain, it all needs to work and get along to function best. Called the war a disease in this world brain. (3) Any foreign soldiers being officially sent to fight will end in nuclear war and the end of humanity.

Job to see and end without a deal, going to cost alot more money and lives if it carries on down the same path without a sign of victory for either side

More amusing that Putin says, its all Bozza's fault that the war is still going on. Whilst we can blame him for a lot of things that is somewhat stretching it, but maybe he thought Tucker Carlson was from the UK.

 

[Werzle]

If he doesn't like the war he can end it tomorrow by withdrawing soldiers out of the internationally recognised borders of Ukraine.

Trouble is he isnt going to do it and ukraine arent going to be able to force him. Trump will need to be elected and force a deal on ukraine. Trump will be seen as the bad guy but most nations bar ukraine will be glad the wars over

 

[Mr Mackay]

Trouble is he isnt going to do it and ukraine arent going to be able to force him. Trump will need to be elected and force a deal on ukraine. Trump will be seen as the bad guy but most nations bar ukraine will be glad the wars over

They certainly will ,and with it they can gloss over Ukraine's wishes I dare say.
Cant really see what else Putin might say ,apart from screaming and ranting about the West maybe.
Hes looking after number 1 ,not Russia . Seems to be quite a few doing that here and there

 

[Muck Spreader]

Trouble is he isnt going to do it and ukraine arent going to be able to force him. Trump will need to be elected and force a deal on ukraine. Trump will be seen as the bad guy but most nations bar ukraine will be glad the wars over

With his fawning admiration for Putin I don't think we can be sure whose side Trump would be on. After all we have seen how hostile he has been towards America's allies first time round.

 

[BrianV]

Do you never wonder why it is that pretty much every media outlet whether on TV or in the papers pretty much always parrot the official line & never ever question whether unrestricted NATO expansion had in any way contributed to the start of the war, they inevitably bring on so called "experts" who nearly always claim that without a complete defeat of Russia they will definitely be attacking NATO before long, any other opinion other than the official one is obviously not wanted, you might just wonder who it is that really controls the media these days.

One of the few articles published in the Guardian early on.
nato-expansion-war-russia-ukraine

Little mention of Putin's claim regarding Bozzo Johnson's intervention in UK media one of the few here.
putin-boris-johnson-tucker-carlson-ukraine-war-b2493341.html

 

[HatsOff]

Who to believe, Putin or Johnson.

Talk about a rock and a hard place.

 

[essex man]

Do you never wonder why it is that pretty much every media outlet whether on TV or in the papers pretty much always parrot the official line & never ever question whether unrestricted NATO expansion had in any way contributed to the start of the war, they inevitably bring on so called "experts" who nearly always claim that without a complete defeat of Russia they will definitely be attacking NATO before long, any other opinion other than the official one is obviously not wanted, you might just wonder who it is that really controls the media these days.

One of the few articles published in the Guardian early on.
nato-expansion-war-russia-ukraine

Little mention of Putin's claim regarding Bozzo Johnson's intervention in UK media one of the few here.
putin-boris-johnson-tucker-carlson-ukraine-war-b2493341.html

They generate the news that people want to read.
The official line/policy is popular, that's why it is the policy.
That's why this news has plenty of customers

 

[czechmate]

They generate the news that people want to read.
The official line/policy is popular, that's why it is the policy.
That's why this news has plenty of customers

was Macrons pension reform “popular “, (oh, that word is soooo popular with you), IYO?

 

[essex man]

was Macrons pension reform “popular “, (oh, that word is soooo popular with you), IYO?

was Macrons pension reform “popular “, (oh, that word is soooo popular with you), IYO?

Do you not think the reporting of it reflected popular opinion?
Populism meets with realism in terms economic terms at some point particularly if you don't live in a national democracy i.e. you live in the eu

 

[arcobob]

It would need playback for lambing to work out who belongs to who.

I have seen human families where that applies.

 

[BrianV]

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[Devil's advocate]

Do you never wonder why it is that pretty much every media outlet whether on TV or in the papers pretty much always parrot the official line & never ever question whether unrestricted NATO expansion had in any way contributed to the start of the war, they inevitably bring on so called "experts" who nearly always claim that without a complete defeat of Russia they will definitely be attacking NATO before long, any other opinion other than the official one is obviously not wanted, you might just wonder who it is that really controls the media these days.

One of the few articles published in the Guardian early on.
nato-expansion-war-russia-ukraine

Little mention of Putin's claim regarding Bozzo Johnson's intervention in UK media one of the few here.
putin-boris-johnson-tucker-carlson-ukraine-war-b2493341.html

NATO is bound to expand.

Because countries bordering Russia get invaded if they are not NATO members.

 

[Henarar]