ollie989898
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Russia has lost over 300 planes and a similar number of helicopters to a country that "don't even have that many SAM systems"..... Iraq air defense was sticks and stones compared to the russian systems. Iraq didn't have any missiles with a range of more than 40km, zero ability to detect stealth aircraft and they still took managed to bring down 38 coalition aircraft and significant damaged another 48. I've no doubt such a European force could come to dominate Ukrainian airspace but it would not come without significant costs to achieve and as much as we might wish it, I doubt very much it would be achieved overnight. If the US wasnt involved who will provide that airborn radar capability, the UK doesnt have our own at present, we scrapped it before building the replacements
What meat assults... take Bahkmut, take Advinka both only captured only by russian sending hundreds to near certain death each day just to capture a house, a hole, a hedgerow, to make a few meters more regardless of the cost to life.
That is false.
Iraq was known to have a pretty serious air defence network in 1991. Some people predicted horrific casualties for the coalition.
The Russians don't have jack. You aren't listening: you can't defend territory/air space without aircraft. Where are the Russian airforce? Where are their aerial tankers and airborne radar? The answer- if they actually exist they are miles away in Russia kicking their boots. I'm personally of the opinion that these assets don't actually exist any longer because in reality Russian defence spending is fudge all and has been fudge all for decades.
You will note that the West did not develop huge ranges of air defence systems during the cold war, instead they concentrated on having fleets of aircraft.
Iraq's air defence network was basically smashed within 48 hours of the war starting.
The West should get into Ukraine and chuck these fudgers out. This would never be happening if Thatcher was at the helm.
The reason Russia has lost so many aircraft is because their pilots have poor training and their aircraft are old scrap.
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