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The war in Ukraine...
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I think that if provided with sufficient backing by the West, with or without the US, in terms of military materiel and finance, Ukraine will defeat Russia. And I think that because...
Russia has no more money to put into its economy, all of its home held state reserves are now committed, its foreign held reserves are frozen. It has already lost nearly 20% of its oil refining capacity - after just a four month campaign by Ukraine, it doesn't have the funds, capacity r knowledge to replace them.
Russia's own materiel is far from depleted, but... what is left is in very poor condition and is antiquated; it hasn't the ability to compete with Western weapons production, so it continues with what it can do. But it now has to do so with fewer and less skilled people, restoring ever older kit less well.
Russia has far great human resources that Ukraine, that is a plain fact. But when you have an advantage if 3:1, fighting to gain villages at a loss rate often nearing 10:1 negates that advantage entirely.
And, even from such polls as can be taken in Russia, we see that about a third of people support the war, a third don't care and a third are against it - all this without being told the truth. But that truth will come home with a vengeance when, as he will eventually have to, Putin starts killing off ethnic Russians from the Western Oblasts, St Petersburg and Moscow.
Russia is a dictatorship with an economy smaller than Italy's, even without the US - and I do not think Trump will win the election in November - the West has more than an order of magnitude more money, more manufacturing ability and more technology than Russia.
That's what I think.
Danllan
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Why not answer the question, was it unhelpful; anyway, do you believe the CCP's financial statements?
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And that is the question; I asked Bwian before and he kept dodging it, how about you @flinty123 would you have advocated that the UK surrender to Germany in 1939-40 rather than see our young men die?“might”, is a mighty easy word from the safety of a NATO country
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I think that if provided with sufficient backing by the West, with or without the US, in terms of military materiel and finance, Ukraine will defeat Russia. And I think that because...
Russia has no more money to put into its economy, all of its home held state reserves are now committed, its foreign held reserves are frozen. It has already lost nearly 20% of its oil refining capacity - after just a four month campaign by Ukraine, it doesn't have the funds, capacity r knowledge to replace them.
Russia's own materiel is far from depleted, but... what is left is in very poor condition and is antiquated; it hasn't the ability to compete with Western weapons production, so it continues with what it can do. But it now has to do so with fewer and less skilled people, restoring ever older kit less well.
Russia has far great human resources that Ukraine, that is a plain fact. But when you have an advantage if 3:1, fighting to gain villages at a loss rate often nearing 10:1 negates that advantage entirely.
And, even from such polls as can be taken in Russia, we see that about a third of people support the war, a third don't care and a third are against it - all this without being told the truth. But that truth will come home with a vengeance when, as he will eventually have to, Putin starts killing off ethnic Russians from the Western Oblasts, St Petersburg and Moscow.
Russia is a dictatorship with an economy smaller than Italy's, even without the US - and I do not think Trump will win the election in November - the West has more than an order of magnitude more money, more manufacturing ability and more technology than Russia.
That's what I think.
ah, but Russia have nukes. We can’t forget this because Putin, the ex president who’s name fails me AND Brian Z keep telling us
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ah, but Russia have nukes. We can’t forget this because Putin, the ex president who’s name fails me AND Brian Z keep telling us
ah yes, this guy. Busy chap
Daniil Medvedev - Wikipedia
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I do wish they would get on with it. Then we could move your conversation onto the next chapter.
Do tell me how you see this ending.
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I have no idea Brian.
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Russia have gains from invading.
Ukraine have gains from resisting.
They will make a peace that involves each keeping their gains.
Can’t really see how Zelensky could agree to that & survive.
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Agree, but he will call the gains his success and that may be enough to keep him in.
Hindsight
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Churchill didn't survive the peace. Ousted in 1945 despite his previous five year record and his correct predictions during the 1930s running upto war.
Russians storm Novopavlivka and five other fronts: 59 combat clashes in 24 hours
765 days of Russia’s large-scale armed aggression against Ukraine: 59 military clashes occurred at the front
www.pravda.com.ua
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How much grain is Ukraine exporting and how is it leaving the country?
Ukraine is exporting large quantities of grain again, despite Russia's Black Sea blockade.
www.bbc.co.uk
Have ever wondered, it’s not how you see things it’s how Ukraine see and want to handle things
you just see things Russia's way
Not really, I just look at it from an outsiders point of view & I simply can't see any way Russia would allow themselves the total embarrassment & humiliation of being beaten, in which case Ukraine alone are on a hiding to nothing!
Time will tell as I see it there
damned if they do and damned if don’t