The war in Ukraine...

ollie989898

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czechmate said:
I‘m not keen on the tone of this post. We are talking about young men loosing their lives 🙁
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Unfortunately that is true. But the ever increasing cost of the damage to Russian gas and oil infrastructure just adds bullish sentiment to energy futures- whether this is right or wrong isn't really the point.

At the end of the day the increased defence spending by the countries of Europe and North America has to be supported somehow. It is fortunate that the USA is a big energy exporter now because it is possible that Europe will not be able to import cheap Russian gas at some point in the future- either because they will refuse to sell it to us or because the infrastructure is destroyed.

As I have stated from the very beginning this could all be over inside a week with US airpower. In 1990 a larger and more powerful aggressor invaded one country and threatened several others with the same. The West didn't sit on it's hands and ignore it back then. We should have stopped this- all that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. If Putin is allowed to keep his ill-gotten gains he will be emboldened to try again and he will keep trying parallel actions to cause the West grief. We've seen a major escalation in the middle east between Hamas and Israel. Yemen is becoming more volatile. This all ultimately leads back to Putin.
 
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ollie989898 said:
Unfortunately that is true. But the ever increasing cost of the damage to Russian gas and oil infrastructure just adds bullish sentiment to energy futures- whether this is right or wrong isn't really the point.

At the end of the day the increased defence spending by the countries of Europe and North America has to be supported somehow. It is fortunate that the USA is a big energy exporter now because it is possible that Europe will not be able to import cheap Russian gas at some point in the future- either because they will refuse to sell it to us or because the infrastructure is destroyed.

As I have stated from the very beginning this could all be over inside a week with US airpower. In 1990 a larger and more powerful aggressor invaded one country and threatened several others with the same. The West didn't sit on it's hands and ignore it back then. We should have stopped this- all that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. If Putin is allowed to keep his ill-gotten gains he will be emboldened to try again and he will keep trying parallel actions to cause the West grief. We've seen a major escalation in the middle east between Hamas and Israel. Yemen is becoming more volatile. This all ultimately leads back to Putin.
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Putin could have been instigator of Hamas to go to do the murders. Iran is a friend of putin Iran is the main supporter of Hamas and Hezbollah and the Hooties .
 
Danllan

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ollie989898 said:
Of course Putin and Iran collaborated with Hamas. The situation suits Putin as it stretches the West. It was all calculated and innocent people die because of Putin.
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The West / democracies should be doing far more to make their lives very difficult, we could, really quite easily, but be don't.

I think Macron is probably doing a bit of grandstanding, pre-retirement and with an eye to his legacy, but for now I'll give his Damascene coversion the benefit of the doubt; anyway I don't care about the reasons if the results are good. Of the 'leaders' outside the Baltics, Macron is the only one saying what needs to be said in the manner it needs to be said.

Whether or not he comes through on what he has said is a different matter. I hope he does because that, as with Boris's actions regarding earlier things, will politically force other 'leaders' to follow suit. We'll see...

That aside, a very good Times interview with Timothy Ash gave some interesting figures... $330bn of Russian state money in Western banks, with $30bn in the US, £25bn in the UK and $170bn in Belgium - which also has $7bn of interest form that sum. And... here is the but, the Belgian Government is the block on international consensus at providing Ukraine with these funds rather than that of our own taxpayers. :mad: :banghead:

 
Danllan

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In fact, thinking on it, I wonder if our governments haven't done this deliberately, i.e. they suspected it would be a long war, knew that they couldn't afford (in money or political terms) to finance it all from start to finish, so have spent a few years doing so and will now use the sequestered Russian funds, a politically popular thing... or maybe I am giving our governments too much credit... :unsure:
 
will l

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How far from Ukraine to Dartmoor?
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www.dairyglobal.net

Challenges at a Ukrainian dairy farm near the frontline - Dairy Global

One of Ukraine’s biggest dairy farms that is situated only 60km from the Russian war frontline is battling against a number of daily challenges to
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Fascinating article. At least the Russians haven't yet dropped a bomb on the cow sheds. Very tidy and efficient looking unit. Which leads to the question I am sure farmer contributor to this thread will ask 'why milk 100 cows in a Devon valley with soil erosion and narrow lanes where machinery and smells irritates the London house buyers'. Funny old world.
 

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