What other realistic option has there been for quite some time?
The war in Ukraine...
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Danllan
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Total sanctioning of Russia and states that help it militarily, and properly supplying Ukraine.
If you include all those buying Russian energy or goods through a third country you're going to be sanctioning a hell of a lot of countries & why shouldn't they be sanctioned also.Total sanctioning of Russia and states that help it militarily, and properly supplying Ukraine.
Mandatory evacuation looms in northern Kharkiv Oblast over Russian shelling
The persistent shelling, now hitting previously spared populated areas, has led authorities to consider expanding the mandatory evacuation zone.
BYEUHENIIA MARTYNIUK07/04/2024
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Charlie Gill
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Taking the block off the $60b of aid would be a good start.
To be spent in the US
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We watched « One life » at the cinema yesterday. Great film and a timely reminder about the folly of appeasement
Danllan
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100% right, there is not one single example of appeasement ever working.
I've asked many times for some on here to give us an example of when giving a bully what he demands has ever resulted in him not demanding more, they never have...
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There's no one advocating that on here, so not sure why you keep asking for these examples.100% right, there is not one single example of appeasement ever working.
I've asked many times for some on here to give us an example of when giving a bully what he demands has ever resulted in him not demanding more, they never have...
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Are you taking the p!ss...? Are you really telling us that you haven't seen the posts with repeated calls / suggestions for Ukraine to give some of its territory to Russia and to accept Russia's other demands, seriously...?
Of course I can't be certain how unobservant you are, but I'll pay you the compliment if stating that you seem to be perfectly well aware of a lot of other things in this thread and elsewhere; so your claim to ignorance of those thinking and writing that Ukraine should make concessions to Russia smacks of plain dishonesty.
I have no idea what your agenda is, it seems to sway from the reasonable to the defeatest, perhaps with the intention of sparking reaction too, either way. But consistent it ain't...
Just to avoid any ambiguity or accusation of having a hidden agenda regarding Ukraine myself, I'll make it very clear: victory for Ukraine on its own terms, giving it all the help it needs to achieve it.
essex man
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We are giving the bully what he wants with our current policy of not enough helpAre you taking the p!ss...? Are you really telling us that you haven't seen the posts with repeated calls / suggestions for Ukraine to give some of its territory to Russia and to accept Russia's other demands, seriously...?
Of course I can't be certain how unobservant you are, but I'll pay you the compliment if stating that you seem to be perfectly well aware of a lot of other things in this thread and elsewhere; so your claim to ignorance of those thinking and writing that Ukraine should make concessions to Russia smacks of plain dishonesty.
I have no idea what your agenda is, it seems to sway from the reasonable to the defeatest, perhaps with the intention of sparking reaction too, either way. But consistent it ain't...
Just to avoid any ambiguity or accusation of having a hidden agenda regarding Ukraine myself, I'll make it very clear: victory for Ukraine on its own terms, giving it all the help it needs to achieve it.
I have seen plenty posts arguing against that.
How long do you expect ukrainians to go on dying for no gain.
Russia will keep the territory it holds when the fighting stops.
Are you still expecting the ukrainians to push them out completely despite no progress for over a year?
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Seems a strange post to come from you Bri, considering you are the one who gives the impression of running around in circles waving your arms in the air
essex man
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I agree , e.g. all that scaremongering over nuclear war etc!
Oh, that was you brian!
farmerm
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How curious you would post that, I would have thought the pro trump, republican Fox News was your cup of tea
Not really, I'm talking of the West pushing the Russians into firing a nuke or two into Ukraine the thought of them taking on the rest of Europe UK & US is laughable.
They wont be "firing nuke or two into Ukraine" If and it is a big IF they try something far more likely to be a missile into a nuclear power station, That way they will try to say Ukraine did it.