The war in Ukraine...

[BrianV]

US & UK so called "intelligence services " keep on reporting that Russia intends to take all of Ukraine, if that really is the best the US & UK "intelligence" can come up with then god help all of us, I reckon they get their so called "intelligence" from social media alone & as before simply report what they want the world to believe!!

 

[Raider112]

I have an awful feeling in many ways Russia does have similar values to the West, they are all quite prepared to start a war & kill innocents if they think it's in their interest to do so, Russia I would imagine learnt from the Americans in Iraq that street by street warfare guarantees troop losses so they do residential bombing starting from the outside of a town or city & working inwards in the vain hope that people & opposing soldiers will quickly leave.

There's a difference between starting a war and trying to delete a country from the map.

 

[Mr Mackay]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1543608910724169737

 

[Mr Mackay]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1543350304598638592

 

[Slick]

US & UK so called "intelligence services " keep on reporting that Russia intends to take all of Ukraine, if that really is the best the US & UK "intelligence" can come up with then god help all of us, I reckon they get their so called "intelligence" from social media alone & as before simply report what they want the world to believe!!

Wasn't your source from UK so called "intelligence sevices"?

 

[betweenthelines]

US & UK so called "intelligence services " keep on reporting that Russia intends to take all of Ukraine, if that really is the best the US & UK "intelligence" can come up with then god help all of us, I reckon they get their so called "intelligence" from social media alone & as before simply report what they want the world to believe!!

That would be the same "intelligence services" that triggered a war by saying Iraq had WMD?

 

[JohnGalway]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1543350304598638592

Stuff like this is exactly why the kremlin trolls are out in such numbers sowing doubt, they know russia can't sustain the war against significantly more effective Western weapons so they attack public opinion.

 

[Charlie Gill]

Fortunately being a farmer you can't help but be cheerful at this time of year, pretty much all the feed harvested & combine soon to be warming up raring to go!
Both the US & UK governments know full well that their only real intention is to prolong this war for their own selfish purposes not to enable the Ukrainian's to ultimately win, where is the leadership trying to bring an end to this senseless slaughter, instead behind the scenes you can bet there is real US pressure for countries to be seen to be giving token weapons.
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Wouldn't it be quicker and cheaper for all concerned if that lot got together and said to Putin if you aren't out in 7 days we are going to kick you out?

 

[German]

Stuff like this is exactly why the kremlin trolls are out in such numbers sowing doubt, they know russia can't sustain the war against significantly more effective Western weapons so they attack public opinion.

You may not believe is but ill doubt there are kremlin trolls posting here

 

[German]

Wouldn't it be quicker and cheaper for all concerned if that lot got together and said to Putin if you aren't out in 7 days we are going to kick you out?

Quick as in triggering a Nuclear war.

 

[Charlie Gill]

Quick as in triggering a Nuclear war.

I knew someone would say it.

 

[German]

I knew someone would say it.

Because its true

 

[Charlie Gill]

Because its true

That’s exactly what you are meant to think.

 

[German]

That’s exactly what you are meant to think.

Wait
Are you seriously thinking the West should just Attack Russia cause nuclear war won't happen as Putin will back down?
Escalation is the way towards peace

 

[Charlie Gill]

Wait
Are you seriously thinking the West should just Attack Russia cause nuclear war won't happen as Putin will back down?
Escalation is the way towards peace

That's not what I said.

 

[Highland Mule]

Wouldn't it be quicker and cheaper for all concerned if that lot got together and said to Putin if you aren't out in 7 days we are going to kick you out?

It would be, but without a legal mandate to enter the theatre of war, that ain't happening. NATO is a defensive pact, and attacking an aggressor on foreign soil isn't defence of NATO.

 

[JohnGalway]

More of that flagging Western support /sarcasm

Slovakia is sending it's MIG29's to Ukraine while Czechia minds it's airspace until US F16's are delivered.

Slovakia planning to send MiG-29 fighter jets and tanks to Ukraine

Slovakia is planning to send MiG-29 fighter aircraft and tanks to Ukraine, whereas the Czech Republic will provide assistance to Slovakia in patrolling its territory until it receives U.S.-made F-16s instead of the aircraft transferred to Ukraine. — Ukrinform.

www.ukrinform.net

 

[German]

NATO is a defensive pact, and attacking an aggressor on foreign soil isn't defence of NATO.

Its funny because NATO bombed Yugoslavia

 

[Charlie Gill]

It would be, but without a legal mandate to enter the theatre of war, that ain't happening. NATO is a defensive pact, and attacking an aggressor on foreign soil isn't defence of NATO.

I imagined it would be helping Ukraine, not a defence of NATO?

 

[JohnGalway]

With the orcs current rate of advance, it's been worked out it would take them 22 years to seize the rest of Ukraine.

This explains food as a weapon, lowering gas supply to Germany, the kremlin trolls gone apoplectic.

Time and technology work in Ukraine's favour, all the orcs can do is attack civilians and sow doubt in Western public opinion, in the hope Ukraine will lose it's support.

russia otoh, has no friends worthy of mention.