Thought some of you would like to see a cotton gin

[Boysground]

What does one of the bales weigh and what would it be worth?

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[glasshouse]

The only cotton harvesting machinery available here is John Deere. They make both strippers & pickers, equivalent machines but for different applications. Either one is worth close to $1million Oz

Current models are CP690 ( cotton picker ) or CS690 ( cotton stripper )
They run 500 hp engines & make JD S780 headers ( combines ) look like Tonka Toys

I would like the baler off it

 

[sahara]

There is supposed to be only one cotton grower in the whole of France and he sells everything he produces via a website.

It's 50 euros for T shirt or 120 for a polo shirt.................!!

Jean Fil coton de France

Bienvenue sur la boutique en ligne de Jean Fil

www.jeanfil.fr

When on a NH job in about 1998 I was in and around Seville in the south of Spain, they grew cotton there, and were just finishing harvesting it while I was there, late mid to late October, looked fascinating to see.

 

[Farmer Roy]

This is my friends gin, I was telling you about, one of the very few privately owned ones.
Namoi Cotton & Auscott & the two main, corporate owned, ginning companies here

Carroll Cotton - Home

www.carrollcotton.com.au

 

[glasshouse]

This is my friends gin, I was telling you about, one of the very few privately owned ones.
Namoi Cotton & Auscott & the two main, corporate owned, ginning companies here

Carroll Cotton - Home

www.carrollcotton.com.au

Who owns koramba now?

 

[Farmer Roy]

Who owns koramba now?

it was bought by AFF ( Australian Food & Fibre )a few years ago, owned by the Robinson family from Moree

A quick google search reveals they have recently bought Auscott as well, which i didn’t know . . .

PSP-backed Australian Food and Fibre buys Auscott - Grain Central

Australia's biggest cotton grower and one of its biggest ginners, Auscott, has sold to the Australian Food & Fibre JV which includes Canada's PSP...Read More

www.graincentral.com

 

[Farmer Roy]

What does one of the bales weigh and what would it be worth?

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the thing about the cotton industry, a “bale” actually has a very specific meaning & is the unit of measurement when discussing yield & for marketing purposes.
A “bale” of cotton is 226 kg of processed cotton fibre that has been ginned & all the seed & trash removed. Cotton isn’t sold until it has been ginned, so you can’t actually just sell the big round modules s they come out of the picker / stripper

The correct name for the big round bales wrapped in plastic is “round module”, to avoid any confusion with actual bales of processed cotton, & to differentiate from the big square modules ( about 2m x 2m x 12m ) that we used to make in module builders.

the round modules weigh about 3 tonne & are roughly 4 “bales” of cotton, worth around $600 / bale.
Of course, there is also a significant amount of cottonseed as well, nearly 2 tonne in a round module.
Cottonseed price pretty well tracks other oilseeds, as it is a major vegetable oil & after crushing is a valuable livestock feed. Raw “fuzzy” cottonseed is also a very popular drought supplement feed for cattle here. Generally, the cotton gin takes the seed & the value of it goes towards the ginning costs. Depending on oilseed prices, some years you may have to pay the gin for ginning, other years they pay you if the value of the seed is higher than the ginning costs.

so, to answer your question quickly, the round module weighs about 3 tonne & is has about $2400 worth of cotton lint in it, along with say $600 or more of oilseed

Sorry, my answers are rarely short or simple

here’s some current cotton prices, just for example

 

[Boysground]

the thing about the cotton industry, a “bale” actually has a very specific meaning & is the unit of measurement when discussing yield & for marketing purposes.
A “bale” of cotton is 226 kg of processed cotton fibre that has been ginned & all the seed & trash removed. Cotton isn’t sold until it has been ginned, so you can’t actually just sell the big round modules s they come out of the picker / stripper

The correct name for the big round bales wrapped in plastic is “round module”, to avoid any confusion with actual bales of processed cotton, & to differentiate from the big square modules ( about 2m x 2m x 12m ) that we used to make in module builders.

the round modules weigh about 3 tonne & are roughly 4 “bales” of cotton, worth around $600 / bale.
Of course, there is also a significant amount of cottonseed as well, nearly 2 tonne in a round module.
Cottonseed price pretty well tracks other oilseeds, as it is a major vegetable oil & after crushing is a valuable livestock feed. Raw “fuzzy” cottonseed is also a very popular drought supplement feed for cattle here. Generally, the cotton gin takes the seed & the value of it goes towards the ginning costs. Depending on oilseed prices, some years you may have to pay the gin for ginning, other years they pay you if the value of the seed is higher than the ginning costs.

so, to answer your question quickly, the round module weighs about 3 tonne & is has about $2400 worth of cotton lint in it, along with say $1600 or more of oilseed

Sorry, my answers are rarely short or simple

here’s some current cotton prices, just for example View attachment 1004427

Maybe not a simple answer but fascinating

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[Farmer Roy]

Maybe not a simple answer but fascinating

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I like to be informative

 

[glasshouse]

the thing about the cotton industry, a “bale” actually has a very specific meaning & is the unit of measurement when discussing yield & for marketing purposes.
A “bale” of cotton is 226 kg of processed cotton fibre that has been ginned & all the seed & trash removed. Cotton isn’t sold until it has been ginned, so you can’t actually just sell the big round modules s they come out of the picker / stripper

The correct name for the big round bales wrapped in plastic is “round module”, to avoid any confusion with actual bales of processed cotton, & to differentiate from the big square modules ( about 2m x 2m x 12m ) that we used to make in module builders.

the round modules weigh about 3 tonne & are roughly 4 “bales” of cotton, worth around $600 / bale.
Of course, there is also a significant amount of cottonseed as well, nearly 2 tonne in a round module.
Cottonseed price pretty well tracks other oilseeds, as it is a major vegetable oil & after crushing is a valuable livestock feed. Raw “fuzzy” cottonseed is also a very popular drought supplement feed for cattle here. Generally, the cotton gin takes the seed & the value of it goes towards the ginning costs. Depending on oilseed prices, some years you may have to pay the gin for ginning, other years they pay you if the value of the seed is higher than the ginning costs.

so, to answer your question quickly, the round module weighs about 3 tonne & is has about $2400 worth of cotton lint in it, along with say $600 or more of oilseed

Sorry, my answers are rarely short or simple

here’s some current cotton prices, just for example View attachment 1004427

I seem to remember we were getting $500/ bale In 1987 at koramba . @ 3 bales to the acre
Not gone up much.
Mind you , wheat was about $80 i think

 

[Ben B]

So when people say there getting 12 bales to the Ha there talking ginned bales?

 

[Farmer Roy]

So when people say there getting 12 bales to the Ha there talking ginned bales?

yes

you can make a reasonable estimate based on how many round or square modules you make, but you don’t really know the yield till it’s been ginned. Just like you don’t really know how many tonnes of grain you have till it goes over a weighbridge
Grain growers don’t say “we harvested 20 trucks off that paddock”

the ginned “bale” is the unit of measurement when discussing cotton yields or when marketing / selling it.

just like tonnes of grain or litres of milk or kg of beef

 

[ollie989898]

Would you say cotton is an efficient crop in terms of water and nutrient use?

 

[Farmer Roy]

So when people say there getting 12 bales to the Ha there talking ginned bales?

And every ginned bale is classed / graded just like fine wool, but many more classifications, for micron & strength & colour etc etc

 

[Farmer Roy]

Would you say cotton is an efficient crop in terms of water and nutrient use?

for a seemingly simple question, I feel the answer is rather complex & to give you the respect due, I will answer it fully when I have more time.
But basically, in OUR environment, yes it is.

you also have to realise there are in reality 2 cotton crops here, the irrigated crop & the dryland / rain grown crop, which are different enough to be treated separately in any discussion

 

[ollie989898]

for a seemingly simple question, I feel the answer is rather complex & to give you the respect due, I will answer it fully when I have more time.
But basically, in OUR environment, yes it is.

you also have to realise there are in reality 2 cotton crops here, the irrigated crop & the dryland / rain grown crop, which are different enough to be treated separately in any discussion

I was just asking because cotton is pretty environmentally friendly- it's biodegradable and a renewable material. You also have a variety you can spray with glyphosate just fine and its resistant to the boll bug so it's surely pretty low impact when it comes to the environment as well.

If the water and nutrient use involved is reasonable, then you are surely growing one of the most low impact crops going. Irrigation is a necessary evil in many parts of the world, I guess how sustainable that is will depend on the overall management of water in the region involved.

I know the cottonseed residue is also used in animal feed so the whole crop is being used fully as well.

 

[Ben B]

I was just asking because cotton is pretty environmentally friendly- it's biodegradable and a renewable material. You also have a variety you can spray with glyphosate just fine and its resistant to the boll bug so it's surely pretty low impact when it comes to the environment as well.

If the water and nutrient use involved is reasonable, then you are surely growing one of the most low impact crops going. Irrigation is a necessary evil in many parts of the world, I guess how sustainable that is will depend on the overall management of water in the region involved.

I know the cottonseed residue is also used in animal feed so the whole crop is being used fully as well.

People have an issue with cotton and rice being grown in Australia, seem to forget that we are one if not the most advanced countries in producing cotton and rice as water effectively as possible. People just don't want cotton and rice in their backyard because it uses water. But they are happy to still consume those products if there grown somewhere else where it's most likely less efficient and more poluting but at least it's not in Australia.

 

[ollie989898]

People have an issue with cotton and rice being grown in Australia, seem to forget that we are one if not the most advanced countries in producing cotton and rice as water effectively as possible. People just don't want cotton and rice in their backyard because it uses water. But they are happy to still consume those products if there grown somewhere else where it's most likely less efficient and more poluting but at least it's not in Australia.

Rice is another crop but it is very very efficient in terms of nutrient use and I can't think for one second you guys are putting a lot of fungicide and the like on it?

Irrigation isn't an issue provided someone is thinking about the amount being used vs what is being put into the reservoir over time or else one day it will all be gone. That's beyond farm level thinking though.

 

[sjt01]

People have an issue with cotton and rice being grown in Australia, seem to forget that we are one if not the most advanced countries in producing cotton and rice as water effectively as possible. People just don't want cotton and rice in their backyard because it uses water. But they are happy to still consume those products if there grown somewhere else where it's most likely less efficient and more poluting but at least it's not in Australia.

Same attitude to food we have in UK

 

[Boysground]

Is the cotton gm and roundup ready?

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