Timber Supplier

GAM

Member
Mixed Farmer
Does anyone by timber in lengths the cut it up for Biomass, or logs?
I'm looking for a supplier of firewood timber, any suggestions?
 

Goweresque

Member
Location
North Wilts
Can’t help you, try till hill, Euro forest companies like that! Make sure you are sitting down when you ask for a price , biomass has f’d the timber market right up .

Whats the price for cord timber on the road side these days then? I've got a long row of willows and poplars thats would probably make a couple of lorry loads of timber if coppiced and sawn up. Is it worth my while doing the work, or is it one of those 'very expensive if you're buying, very cheap if you're selling' scenarios?
 

oldoaktree

Member
Location
County Durham
£50-70 I guess. I wouldn’t want poplar my customers don’t like it .
The best thing I’d say for you would be get it chipped and then sell. How you would go about that I wouldn’t like to say.
 

Frank-the-Wool

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
Whats the price for cord timber on the road side these days then? I've got a long row of willows and poplars thats would probably make a couple of lorry loads of timber if coppiced and sawn up. Is it worth my while doing the work, or is it one of those 'very expensive if you're buying, very cheap if you're selling' scenarios?

£45.00 down here but mostly rubbish stuff.
Biomass is pushing up the better stuff and it all depends how much weight they can get on the trucks.
 

renewablejohn

Member
Location
lancs
Whats the price for cord timber on the road side these days then? I've got a long row of willows and poplars thats would probably make a couple of lorry loads of timber if coppiced and sawn up. Is it worth my while doing the work, or is it one of those 'very expensive if you're buying, very cheap if you're selling' scenarios?

Willow and poplar is wonderful stuff as my competitors sell it wet and then lose there customers as they dont know how to dry it without it going mouldy. Fortunately it does make excellent firewood if you know how to dry it. As for price I normally get it FOC as the tree surgeons cannot use it for firewood.
With all the ash coming down its the main timber being sold at 60-65 a tonne.
 

Goweresque

Member
Location
North Wilts
Willow and poplar is wonderful stuff as my competitors sell it wet and then lose there customers as they dont know how to dry it without it going mouldy. Fortunately it does make excellent firewood if you know how to dry it. As for price I normally get it FOC as the tree surgeons cannot use it for firewood.
With all the ash coming down its the main timber being sold at 60-65 a tonne.

How come tree surgeons can't use willow for firewood? It seasons quicker than hardwood. I've been burning willow all my life, and there's no special trick to seasoning it, just cut it up, stack it and wait 12-18 months.
 

renewablejohn

Member
Location
lancs
How come tree surgeons can't use willow for firewood? It seasons quicker than hardwood. I've been burning willow all my life, and there's no special trick to seasoning it, just cut it up, stack it and wait 12-18 months.

No trick they just cant be bothered to wait for it to dry. They would rather split it straight away then put in dumpy bags where it goes mouldy then there customers complain that its to wet to burn.
 
How come tree surgeons can't use willow for firewood? It seasons quicker than hardwood. I've been burning willow all my life, and there's no special trick to seasoning it, just cut it up, stack it and wait 12-18 months.

I was told years ago by an old sage that willow was great for firewood, the main drawback being that the stuff will grow nearly as fast as you can cut it down.
 

Goweresque

Member
Location
North Wilts
I was told years ago by an old sage that willow was great for firewood, the main drawback being that the stuff will grow nearly as fast as you can cut it down.

The only drawback of willow firewood is that it spits something rotten, so in the days of open fires I guess it would have got a bad name, no-one wants to burn logs that could potentially burn your house down when you've gone to bed or left the house. But since the advent of enclosed log stoves the spitting is utterly irrelevant, so its just down to BTUs really. Yes willow has less heat per volume than hardwood, but as you rightly point out, it grows like stink, so one offsets the other really. I would hazard that you need to leave no more than 20 years between coppicing willows trees, anything much longer and the branches will be bigger than the tree can hold up and it will start to split out and destroy the tree.
 

roscoe erf

Member
Livestock Farmer
The only drawback of willow firewood is that it spits something rotten, so in the days of open fires I guess it would have got a bad name, no-one wants to burn logs that could potentially burn your house down when you've gone to bed or left the house. But since the advent of enclosed log stoves the spitting is utterly irrelevant, so its just down to BTUs really. Yes willow has less heat per volume than hardwood, but as you rightly point out, it grows like stink, so one offsets the other really. I would hazard that you need to leave no more than 20 years between coppicing willows trees, anything much longer and the branches will be bigger than the tree can hold up and it will start to split out and destroy the tree.
If your giving it away I’ll take a lorry load :)
 

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