Today at work

[bitwrx]

Very smart. Jamie's efforts at flooding the weaner market I take it?

Jamie looking well.

Am I the only pig person who doesn't know who Jamie is?

Thanks for posting those pics @JP1. Don't get to see enough of people doing it differently to us. Very taken with the fact that people have the confidence to invest in what is clearly a very capital intensive system. He must be confident of getting the required performance out of the animals. And judging by how they look, his confidence is well-placed.

The more time I spend in our business, I'm not sure our halfway house approach is the way to go... Maybe a set of former dairy buildings isn't such a cost-effective piggery after all.

 

[JP1]

Thank goodness the pig industry in the UK is a broad church. That new unit looks a real showpiece.
One thing that I can't understand (and i've told Jamie this) is why they're producing a lot of weaners rather than finishing pigs from fewer sows.
Recently I had an attempt to utterly shaft me by a finisher and a marketing group over a weaner contract. Thankfully I've been in the pig job long enough to have a few friends and I miraculously got an alternative outlet. I wish Jamie and co luck!

You have a PM

 

[Suffolk Serf]

Am I the only pig person who doesn't know who Jamie is?

Thanks for posting those pics @JP1. Don't get to see enough of people doing it differently to us. Very taken with the fact that people have the confidence to invest in what is clearly a very capital intensive system. He must be confident of getting the required performance out of the animals. And judging by how they look, his confidence is well-placed.

The more time I spend in our business, I'm not sure our halfway house approach is the way to go... Maybe a set of former dairy buildings isn't such a cost-effective piggery after all.

QE, Quality Equipment, Jamie is the MD, JP1 is their master salesman.

 

[JP1]

Am I the only pig person who doesn't know who Jamie is?

Thanks for posting those pics @JP1. Don't get to see enough of people doing it differently to us. Very taken with the fact that people have the confidence to invest in what is clearly a very capital intensive system. He must be confident of getting the required performance out of the animals. And judging by how they look, his confidence is well-placed.

The more time I spend in our business, I'm not sure our halfway house approach is the way to go... Maybe a set of former dairy buildings isn't such a cost-effective piggery after all.

Different proposition. Yes the performance and weaning weights are pretty impressive

Daytime I work for Jamie Baker who is MD of G E Baker UK Limited / Quality Equipment

 

[Bongodog]

Last few days :
Wednesday night rescued my sheep from the flood water in the dark - no photos .
flooded office at day job
Christmas morning feeding neighbours sheep stranded on an old embankment to save him coming out on Christmas Day
Today was able to get to one block as the floods have dropped a bit to see the water View attachment 929484View attachment 929485View attachment 929486View attachment 929487View attachment 929488View attachment 929489View attachment 929491View attachment 929492View attachment 929493View attachment 929494

Those offices don't look good, could be a long job to get up and running

 

[Agrijas]

No mycotoxins (especially in wheat straw that is sadly all that is available).

Piglets just like babies born in near hospital conditions

Depends on your viewpoint but you have to ask who's welfare is most important

As in all things it's the management that is the key to welfare

I passed a few outdoor units on the way home and they have their own challenges (and I say that as a very keen student of yesteryear who really wanted to go in to outdoor production long before it was fashionable)

I’m not having a pop at anybody but those pictures don’t sit easy with me, I along with the majority of tff know why it’s done like this and get what JP1 is alluding to above. As someone who has zero pig experience maybe I am like jo public but without the balance of of JP1 to inform me? I actually thought pig keeping like that had been banned in this country! Really interesting to see and as already said not having a go at anyone

 

[grainboy]

No mycotoxins (especially in wheat straw that is sadly all that is available).

Piglets just like babies born in near hospital conditions

Depends on your viewpoint but you have to ask who's welfare is most important

As in all things it's the management that is the key to welfare

I passed a few outdoor units on the way home and they have their own challenges (and I say that as a very keen student of yesteryear who really wanted to go in to outdoor production long before it was fashionable)

Perhaps that’s why meat doesn’t seem to have any flavour nowadays,
Sterile environment, sterile products, !!!!!

 

[JP1]

Perhaps that’s why meat doesn’t seem to have any flavour nowadays,
Sterile environment, sterile products, !!!!!

There are no meat animals in those buildings

I suggest you concentrate on commenting on what you know about

 

[thorpe]

There are no meat animals in those buildings

I suggest you concentrate on commenting on what you know about

im sure those pigs will end up as pork products.

 

[Doc]

I suggest you concentrate on commenting on what you know about

Pretty ignorant reply.
I’m a stranger to commercial pigs really. I see what the consumer does. A very sterile, boring environment. I’m sure to make the large investment stack up it will be a numbers game of fine margins.
It can be confusing selling one image of carbon neutrality then presenting this vista of concrete and plastic. I’d much rather be one of your Galloways!

 

[JP1]

im sure those pigs will end up as pork products.

Of course. In a wide range of buildings and systems. Hence my reply

 

[grainboy]

There are no meat animals in those buildings

I suggest you concentrate on commenting on what you know about

Here we go again, I have an opinion,
You make it all personal,

So the Weaners suddenly go to straw yards, I very much doubt it, probably more slats, and no day light,

and I was probably breading pigs before you were knee high, !!

 

[Will 1594]

There are no meat animals in those buildings

I suggest you concentrate on commenting on what you know about

He may know more about pigs than you think , never judge or under estimate any one

 

[JP1]

I suggest you concentrate on commenting on what you know about

Pretty ignorant reply.
I’m a stranger to commercial pigs really. I see what the consumer does. A very sterile, boring environment. I’m sure to make the large investment stack up it will be a numbers game of fine margins.
It can be confusing selling one image of carbon neutrality then presenting this vista of concrete and plastic. I’d much rather be one of your Galloways!

There's background to that particular member. He's always sniping at something usually making disparaging comments about how uncomfortable he is with seeing my Son on my posts. He had a PM at the time for which he's never replied

 

[JP1]

Here we go again, I have an opinion,
You make it all personal,

So the Weaners suddenly go to straw yards, I very much doubt it, probably more slats, and no day light,

and I was probably breading pigs before you were knee high, !!

You are the one who makes things personal , like you did about my Son (for which you've never replied to my PM).

if you've nothing to be positive about move on

 

[JP1]

He may know more about pigs than you think , never judge or under estimate any one

He has form unfortunately

 

[JP1]

Here we go again, I have an opinion,
You make it all personal,

So the Weaners suddenly go to straw yards, I very much doubt it, probably more slats, and no day light,

and I was probably breading pigs before you were knee high, !!

You then know so much.

 

[grainboy]

Ps, your no longer a moderator,
So no moderation please,

 

[Will 1594]

He has form unfortunately

Maybe ,but every one is entitled to their own opinion , is that what this forum is all about more than one way to skin a cat

 

[JP1]

Maybe ,but every one is entitled to their own opinion , is that what this forum is all about more than one way to skin a cat

OK. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. That member does have form though and never replied to my PM when he made it personal