Tractor sales

[Scottie78]

Only 3 fastracs!

81 valtras was speaking to local dealer today he's sold 115!

120 new valtras for 2 years I spoke to the owner at Xmas when my brother a fitter introduced me to his boss.

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

That was when JD sold 4734 for the year , what happened to them

4972 actually. But that may allegedly include wheelbarrows.

What happened to them? As far as I know they're still making and selling quite a few tractors...

 

[juke]

OK there's two points to take away here:

1. The overall market rose quite substantially from '16 to '17 and so did Valtra's market share, so they took home a bigger slice of a bigger pie.
2. The size of the market in '18 (for tractors > 50 hp) was pretty much line-ball with '17

So for Valtra to have "better figures" in 2018 they would solely have to do it from increasing market share. All AGCO brands had a better market share in '17 than '16. The best was 'poor old' Massey which had a massive jump.

The 2011 figures are historically interesting, because the overall market was much bigger (about 40% bigger) than in 2016, Valtra's market share was actually much bigger then too. It's only recently recovered to those level in 2017.

well im still confident valtra will have an increase for 2018 figures ,

 

[Happy]

Not looking good for Claas. 2% drop from only 5.5% of the market the year before
How they must be wishing they had as deep pockets as Agco all those years back when most of their dealers also sold Valtra tractors and doing well with them.

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

they must be wishing they had as deep pockets as Agco

AGCO have a nice debt pile
Kubota and JD are the kiddies sitting on a cash pile.

 

[aangus]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=2107159126045588

Looks like the green is better here.

Had to laugh at that

 

[james ds]

AGCO have a nice debt pile
Kubota and JD are the kiddies sitting on a cash pile.

Kubotas profit is more than Classes turn over. There are a massive company

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

Kubotas profit is more than Classes turn over. There are a massive company

...and to be fair most of that is generated through their construction equipment and small/utility tractor/groundcare sales.

They are fairly massive though and have a far longer history than most folks would have thought.

I remember in the nineties when they were diversifying into all sorts of stuff including super-computing. No kidding.

 

[Robt]

I remember chatting to a very well known salesman here in east Anglia and he informed me that some Deere dealers even included wheelbarrow sales in their tractor figures.
New Holland CASE had just introduced new machines in 2016/17 which are normally more expensive than late models from their previous ranges in 2015 which would explain their drop off, and they don't sell branded wheelbarrows

Utter tosh Phil! Have you been spending to long in the sauna at Bedford lodge again!

 

[Drillman]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=2107159126045588

Looks like the green is better here.

Shhh don’t tell the Dr, we never hear the end of it.....

 

[BBC]

Kubotas profit is more than Classes turn over. There are a massive company

Not sure that’s right .....

Kubota expected to report a profit for 2018 of 145 billion yen, which is about 1.16 billion euro. Claas just reported that their turnover for 2017/18 was 3.83 billion euro.

 

[Chae1]

Are many farms running kubota tractors ?

None around here.

 

[james ds]

Not sure that’s right .....

Kubota expected to report a profit for 2018 of 145 billion yen, which is about 1.16 billion euro. Claas just reported that their turnover for 2017/18 was 3.83 billion euro.

The figures I read some where would be for 3 years ago.

 

[Cowabunga]

Not sure that’s right .....

Kubota expected to report a profit for 2018 of 145 billion yen, which is about 1.16 billion euro. Claas just reported that their turnover for 2017/18 was 3.83 billion euro.

So if Claas made 40% on each unit they wouldn't be far behind Kubota.

 

[Speedstar]

Are many farms running kubota tractors ?

None around here.

there are few with us, mostly stock men

 

[holywell farmer]

Interesting update.

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-new...w-tractors-in-the-uk-come-from-just-3-giants/

Interesting to note:

Kubota sold 24% the figure of John Deere and 6.9% overall.
Translating into almost twice the figure of Claas tractors sold and over three times the number of Deutz.

By comparison JCB sold just 8% the figure of John Deere and 2.4% overall.

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Gap between agco and John Deere very close

 

[TomD]

Gap between agco and John Deere very close

Takes all 3 of them and they still can't sell more says a lot really ....