Trailer plough

[wilt434]

Just bought this a few weeks back and wondering whats the value and is it any good to go match ploughing. I think it's a ransomes motrac but not sure.

 

[Mydexta]

@Pennine Ploughing

 

[Pennine Ploughing]

well what can i say, it looks to be on YL165, but might be wrong as pics are not that clear,(or its the whisky lol)
165s are ok and would be fine for 10" vintage ploughing, motrac not the best of the trailed ploughs, but would do not a bad job in the right hands,
as for price, well i would of thought £250 would be plenty for it,
the reason for the low price, is simply not many want to go into that class, its the hassel of shifting it about,
to heavy an outfit with the likes of an old fordson on a trailer behind a pickup, and if on a wagon need a winch or hiab to get it on and off, then the problem with a TVO tractor is something else that puts people off from going into that class
most seem to want a small diesel tractor and hydraulic plough, for ease of shifting and running costs

 

[arcobob]

Looks like YL165 boards, so not the preferred choice, but some very good ploughmen (Mike Taylor, GB and European champ) use Motracs. They are shorter than RSLDs and therefore a bit more transportable.

 

[Ley253]

I think its a TS 43A last series of the Motrac. Very popular plough in Herefordshire, and winner of the World in Italy in, I believe, 1960. Ploughman was the late John Gwilliam. Ransome designed, whereas the straight beam ploughs were originaly Hornsby, which was taken over by Ransomes. On very early number nine rsld/rslm ploughs, you will find two small holes in the beam stiffener, that was the position for the Hornsby badge, the Ransome plate being on the depth control shaft support, and so much more prominent.
If offered for sale in Herefordshire, I would expect it to be priced in the £450/£500 range, the rslm/rsld ploughs fetching far less.

 

[Mrs Brown]

I know nowt about vintage ploughs but as a boy there was an old cockshutt drag plough here and the boards and disks looked very like those fitted to a Ransom robin lift plough, could this be .

 

[Tha Ulsterscot]

I know nowt about vintage ploughs but as a boy there was an old cockshutt drag plough here and the boards and disks looked very like those fitted to a Ransom robin lift plough, could this be .

Only if someone changed them. My cockshutt boards are nothing like ransom's.

 

[Nedbear]

Arr FRDCP bodies quite common in the trailing class.?

 

[Mydexta]

I thought irdcp are more popular

Do u have a pair of frdcp bodies???

 

[Ley253]

Think frdcp are the ford copies, so may have been fitted to the elite, but more likely to be on the FR series ploughs.

 

[Nedbear]

The frdcp are on an RSLD trailing plough, not tried it yet.

 

[Ley253]

The frdcp are on an RSLD trailing plough, not tried it yet.

Cant say as I like that set up, Those ploughs go best with YL or RND bodies

 

[Roy Stokes]

Think frdcp are the ford copies, so may have been fitted to the elite, but more likely to be on the FR series ploughs.

From memory the FRDCP (Ford Ransomes double chilled plough) was a joint venture between Ford and Ransomes developed to cut down weight for longer conventional ploughs and the new reversibles being launched at the time of development.
IRDCP was very popular on RSLD/M ploughs and used to great effect by Hugh Barr before his retirement from competition ploughing

 

[Nedbear]

Thanks for that information, very interesting.

 

[Mydexta]

Anyone got a spare set of frdcp bodies lying about they would be interested in selling??????

 

[Nedbear]

Set on Westlake ploughs for sale.

 

[Ley253]

From memory the FRDCP (Ford Ransomes double chilled plough) was a joint venture between Ford and Ransomes developed to cut down weight for longer conventional ploughs and the new reversibles being launched at the time of development.
IRDCP was very popular on RSLD/M ploughs and used to great effect by Hugh Barr before his retirement from competition ploughing

Interesting Roy. I have seen many motracs fitted with irdcp and other digging bodies, but never a rsld/m, all of those have been fitted yl or rnd bodies. Mind you, area preffs do seem to have a great bearing. In Hereford even today, you wont get far with a " sraight beam" against a motrac, in Somerset motracs were few and far between.
Also, according to Anthony Clares book, when ford asked Ransomes for the drawing of the board, they were astounded to be told that none existed! Ford had to measure a Ransomes board and make the required drawings. Knowing fords love of doing things on the cheap, are frcdps still krissteel?

 

[Roy Stokes]

Interesting Roy. I have seen many motracs fitted with irdcp and other digging bodies, but never a rsld/m, all of those have been fitted yl or rnd bodies. Mind you, area preffs do seem to have a great bearing. In Hereford even today, you wont get far with a " sraight beam" against a motrac, in Somerset motracs were few and far between.

Very true, in Yorkshire they wouldn't give you a thank you for an IRDCP body, or a Motrac come to think of it

 

[Nedbear]

I thought irdcp are more popular

Do u have a pair of frdcp bodies???

Yes! Frdcps on Rsld frame. Trying for first time on Saturday at the Highlandsof Fife ploughing match.

 

[Mydexta]

Yes! Frdcps on Rsld frame. Trying for first time on Saturday at the Highlandsof Fife ploughing match.

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