training people to milk and how do you renumerate them?

I'm not working for lely either;)
I know that lots of farmers can be good at organising their workload. Now I'm just better at it :p
Joking aside, I needed major expenditure on a parlour anyway so it was a no brainer for me once I did a few sums.
To keep on topic, relief milkers and the ongoing cost were a part of my envelope calculations. Being a small herd, training relief and giving them enough work to keep them up to date on the routine was a major cost to my business. Then if I needed help on the day to day running, it was costing me anway so I went down the route I did. Like I said, it doesn't make my way better than yours. (y)
Lely A3's!!! :eek::banghead::LOL:
 
So really you are saying you think anyone putting a robot in amazes you that they don't want to stand in a hole in the ground for 5 or 6 hours a day!
For me it means flexibility to spend time with my family then spend time with the cows when it suits me.
Certainly the management style is different, not worse or better, just different. Sick cows can be easily spotted if you pay attention and this is true whatever the regime. Mastitis can be missed in the parlour too if you are in a hurry to get to an appointment or are busy at silage or other field work. But I suppose it takes different strokes for different folks as they say.
If we were all the same it would be boring as there would be no one to argue with!
Should be milking only 3 hours a day in the parlour, if your doing 5-6 hours a day , the parlour is too small, or go OAD :D
 

clem dog

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Do you think you will ever find your perfect job that you stick at?
With some of your comments on this thread I’m not sure medicine and being a junior doctor is going to fulfill your employment criteria.

How the hell would you know my 'employment criteria'?

'Some of my comments on this thread'? Oh, so you don't agree with my opinions on this topic, turn it into a personal attack instead?

Is there something wrong with you?
 
If the cap fits .......

Allow me to illustrate something for your personal edification. You currently know the sum total of dick about me but we can change that.

What I am proposing to do is this:

I will not earn a cent for a period of 5 years starting September 2020. Any free time I have will be spent studying or undertaking work experience supplementary to the days or hours I already have amassed. Understandably childcare is going to take something of a backseat, meaning I just will not have tonnes of free time to spend with my children, the oldest of which will be nearly 9 years old by the time I finish.

During this time I will be paying at least 40,000 pounds, of my own money, not student loans in tuition fees. I will have driven at least 75,000 miles to uni and back, not including any time spent on placement, and spent around £8000 on fuel at today's prices to say nothing of the requirements of course materials or similar. At no point will I be able to contribute to any household expenses as I just won't have an income. That will solely fall down to my wife, who has done nothing but offer her encouragement and full support for this endeavour.

I have lost count of the number of people I have discussed my plans with, but at no point has anyone, former clients, former colleagues, friends, family next door neighbours nor folk in the pub offered anything but encouragement. It is my intention to completely and utterly abandon any previous experience or knowledge I may have and learn something totally new to me for the sake of entering a career with the sole intention of helping and aiding others. As you can imagine, and being someone who has in the past struggled with personal confidence, I was doubting my own ability to return to academia after all this time and accept what is no small undertaking.

Now, on the back of all that, you feel the need to criticize me, my work ethic and character?

Where I come from, there is a name for people like that.
 
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An Gof

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Allow me to illustrate something for your personal edification. You currently know the sum total of dick about me but we can change that.

What I am proposing to do is this:

I will not earn a cent for a period of 5 years starting September 2020. Any free time I have will be spent studying or undertaking work experience supplementary to the days or hours I already have amassed. Understandably childcare is going to take something of a backseat, meaning I just will not have tonnes of free time to spend with my children, the oldest of which will be nearly 9 years old by the time I finish.

During this time I will be paying at least 40,000 pounds, of my own money, not student loans in tuition fees. I will have driven at least 75,000 miles to uni and back, not including any time spent on placement, and spent around £8000 on fuel at today's prices to say nothing of the requirements of course materials or similar. At no point will I be able to contribute to any household expenses as I just won't have an income. That will solely fall down to my wife, who has done nothing but offer her encouragement and full support for this endeavour.

I have lost count of the number of people I have discussed my plans with, but at no point has anyone, former clients, former colleagues, friends, family next door neighbours nor folk in the pub offered anything but encouragement.

Now, on the back of all that, you feel the need to criticize me, my work ethic and character?

Where I come from, there is a name for people like that.


Judging by some of your comments on this thread on working hours, breaks etc you might be in for a shock in your new chosen career.

I will, however, give you credit for a bigger pair than I have to make a lifestyle change like that with the responsibilities of a family; I hope it works out for you and you find what you want from life, it would appear that agriculture and the supply industry has not fulfilled your needs.
 
Judging by some of your comments on this thread on working hours, breaks etc you might be in for a shock in your new chosen career.

I will, however, give you credit for a bigger pair than I have to make a lifestyle change like that with the responsibilities of a family; I hope it works out for you and you find what you want from life, it would appear that agriculture and the supply industry has not fulfilled your needs.

At no point have I said I have not or would not be willing to work long hours: it is something I have done before and in a rather less stimulating environment I might add. I think you might need to reflect on the intended context of what I have said.

Can you honestly blame me for the changes I have made? Put yourself in my shoes: I was a desk-bound understudy in a business that had been absorbed by a larger one. One does not have to be Uri Geller to recognise that performing a role already being conducted by a team of others in a larger parent business is not viable long-term. Still: everyone needs their first step on the real-world ladder and it opened other opportunities and taught me a great deal. Then I entered another career path, learned it, did it for a few years then recognised it was not for me given the stress involved; certainly not worthwhile because of the end results I could envisage from my perspective and not an uncommon conclusion to make, either. Again, I've taken away far more from that job than I could ever have possibly anticipated and it has made me a hundred times the candidate for anything I could ever have been at 18,19 or 21.

Now throw in the appeal of another personal challenge and the fact that even the number of entrants for any care-orientated careers is actually declining, along with people actually remaining in their posts and the question then becomes: 'if not me, who?'
 

Highland Mule

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Your posts are too long and many people are becoming bored of you

Really? How big a sample size of people do you have? I’m happy to have any and all posters around, and know how to work the forum software to ignore any whose posts I don’t want to read. I suggest you do the same, rather than trying to act as forum police.

Unless I’ve missed it , nothing written by Ollie is offensive or objectionable. Challenging the norm, perhaps, but that is healthy and should be encouraged, not stifled.
 

jimmer

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Location
East Devon
Really? How big a sample size of people do you have? I’m happy to have any and all posters around, and know how to work the forum software to ignore any whose posts I don’t want to read. I suggest you do the same, rather than trying to act as forum police.

Unless I’ve missed it , nothing written by Ollie is offensive or objectionable. Challenging the norm, perhaps, but that is healthy and should be encouraged, not stifled.
Read my post , I referred to the length of his posts not content , my interpretation of many is obviously different to others
And as for the police comment :ROFLMAO:
 
I was up until at least 3am this morning (or night, not sure how that works) browsing TFF and working on a chemistry assignment. The content of that is less stimulating as the kind of magazine you might leave somewhere handy to read whilst on the loo.

Posts too long? I can type. Don't read it. Put me on ignore. I'm not worried. I don't ignore anyone on the basis that all content on TFF has the some opportunity to be useful or interesting. Reading, assimilating and writing information is a skill I need to practice. A lot.
 

Highland Mule

Member
Livestock Farmer
Read my post , I referred to the length of his posts not content , my interpretation of many is obviously different to others
And as for the police comment :ROFLMAO:

I read your comment, all 13 words of it. I just found it disappointing that you chose to play the man and not the ball.

Interestingly, the french word for boredom is a reflexive verb - boredom comes from within and can only be blamed on the person who makes themselves bored. That might be something to think about.
 

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