They will do that anyway.
U.K. dairying and “Climate Change”
- Thread starter Bald Rick
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And isn’t that the point.
We are going to have to suck up a load of sh!t (literally probably) to appease the government’s determination to be world leading on climate action whilst BRIC countries pay lip service and carry on
More to life
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- Somerset
Is it acceptable to purely export our pollution I really don't think it is.
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- Northumberland
This was floating round the internet the other day.
Shows that cutting cattle numbers will have an effect that most folk probably never thought of.
Bit like the banning of any new opencast coal mining. --
The brick makers are wondering where their next load of clay is coming from
Shows that cutting cattle numbers will have an effect that most folk probably never thought of.
Bit like the banning of any new opencast coal mining. --
The brick makers are wondering where their next load of clay is coming from
Bramble
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Completely agree, unless consumption changes then methane/CO2 emissions will only move overseas.
Similar to recycling - we don’t have the facilities to do it here so stick it all on a boat to India/Bangladesh/China where they just burn it or bung it in the sea, but it’s OK ‘cos they give you a nice certificate saying it’s been disposed of.
If the government want to go down this route they should be pushed to legislate that imported food comes with some sort of CO2 passport, including transport emissions
Why is everybody so worried about 'her'? If Boris is as big a lying, cheating, two faced scumbag that everyone says he is, she'll be gone shortly and the next one moved in.
Perhaps if we all cut back on the cows, we'd discover that less means more.
Perhaps if we all cut back on the cows, we'd discover that less means more.
We've done a full carbon audit from start to finish, including processing and delivering to customers doorsteps (as we are direct sales only).
Per L of milk produced, processed, packaged and delivered, 2.1kg of carbon is captured.
I wonder how the vegan alternatives compare?
Per L of milk produced, processed, packaged and delivered, 2.1kg of carbon is captured.
I wonder how the vegan alternatives compare?
Thomas?
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- Northumberland
Interesting
Would you mind sharing the calculation
Is that leccy pastueriser ? Leccy or diesel delivery
Used the Farm Carbon toolkit and some help from Duchy College. Its a bit daunting to start but not too bad once you get into it.
Pasteuriser is electric, we have 1 electric van and 3 diesel ones at the moment, but aim to go all electric in the future. keeping to a 10 mile delivery radius.
Processing and delivering produce a lot of carbon, so I would imagine most farms would be fairly low emitters if not sequestering carbon before you take this into account. For some reason many studies forget to include the sequestration of carbon in soils, which conveniently are included in the plant based alternative to dairy, which also often manage to miss the transport emissions too!
frederick
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- south west
How much is your soil organic matter changing. Trouble is you will soon hit a new equilibrium and then you will no longer have sequestration.
anywhere in wales
Sequestration will definitely slow down over time as OM increases. However, by adding OM to soil you are creating new soil, so there is always the possibility of sequestering more carbon into the 'new' soil. Especially with deep rooting species where you are adding OM down to a not unreasonable 6' deep.
frederick
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- south west
So what are you doing different now than you were 10 years ago to be increasing organic matter.
But when your organic matter breaks down to create new soil it releases all it's carbon as carbon dioxide
Dead Rabbits
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- 'Merica
Whatever hair brained sh!t they try to implement will just result in your commodities coming from somewhere else. They will never see that though. People want dairy and meat products and telling them they don’t want them won’t change that.
It will likely just turn into some other game to be played as most every government program does.
It will likely just turn into some other game to be played as most every government program does.
frederick
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- south west
It appears the Americans have it sorted John kerry stated on Marr this morning that we don't need to give up quality of life we just need to allow science to come up with solutions we don't know about yet
Farms will continue to get bigger and more specialised, smaller farms will be swamped with legislation that it wont be worth the hassle. I wouldnt encourage my kids to dairy unless they really wanted to, we are too remote with challenging growing conditions. Its really difficult to see what else marginal grassland areas can do instead if they cant keep livestock, i guess trees will be an option for many.
So on countryfile the house builder payed the dairy to quit milk to offset phosphate pollution
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