UK Feed lots ?

[milkloss]

I'd say environmental rules and the nimby lot would rule it out as a viable business.

Global market don't ya know!

 

[Clive]

By feedlot do you mean outdoor yards or intensive farming?

I assume it refers to the whole system of large scale, outdoor, intensively fed cattle with high growth rates.

 

[Suffolk Serf]

on light, well drained chalk or sand maybe it could work ?

I expect the EA would not like it

From my experience of outdoor pigs, on even very light land can get pretty wet. I'm spending too much of my time at the moment wallowing up to my guts on a very wet part of my site. Cattle I presume would be even worse?
The EA might be an issue but planning less so if everything is easily moveable.

 

[twizz]

I seem to remember seeing some at water estate on the Yorkshire wolds having some years ago but I think the stopped using them

 

[General-Lee]

Was one in South Devon years ago, now one up exeter way , nothing like the scale of the US ones
though. Think there was a out door cow finishing unit on the East coast

Ross May had big open yards but believe they've been covered over.

Stuart's?

 

[multi power]

In the late '80s we kept most of our suckler herd in an outdoor wire corral on straw as we couldn't afford another shed then. The main cattle shed was used for the weaned calves. It worked but was very messy and didn't seem very welfare friendly. I wouldn't go back to it.


And we're in an area with a kind climate

So basically just a straw bedded outside yard ?

 

[Northeastfarmer]

So basically just a straw bedded outside yard ?

Plenty of them round here

 

[multi power]

Plenty of them round here

How much rain do you get? What price is your straw?

 

[Bossfarmer]

Has it ever been done USA style in the UK ?

if not why not ?

its not worth it cattle don't do as well outside here and the weather/mess/welfare standards is a big issue, id love to be able to do it though could produce beef much cheaper

 

[Northeastfarmer]

How much rain do you get? What price is your straw?

I don't know how much rain as don't keep a check but will be an awful lot less than the west...straw is fairly reasonable...most finishers will use their own straw and woodchip

 

[multi power]

I don't know how much rain as don't keep a check but will be an awful lot less than the west...straw is fairly reasonable...most finishers will use their own straw and woodchip

Here you would be as cheap putting up a roof as buying lots of straw

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Here you would be as cheap putting up a roof as buying lots of straw

I would never keep cattle like that but each to their own

 

[yellowbelly]

Pretty sure bloke up Lincoln way been doing it for few years...

Franz Buitelaar had some kind of feedlot in the Lincolnshire Wolds in the 70's/80's. Feeding 100's of cull cows on all sorts of stuff in some steep sided valleys, for shelter.

 

[JP1]

Hmm. I would have thought Paul Rackham would have been on the lightest of land in the lowest rainfall and he didn't have finishers outside.

Some of those feedlot lines almost run in to infinity in the US

I guess a disused airfield away from housing in the East on light land would be the best to try such a thing - straw, arable by products , low rainfall and a long run hardstanding for the feed wagon

 

[Bill the Bass]

Look on google earth around Malton, north yorks. Birdsall used to have big outdoor cattle yards up on the wolds. Don't know if they still do or not.

Personally, if that is the production systems we are aspiring to in the U.K. I would rather quit cattle production.

#Race to the bottom!

 

[MickW]

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/National/article1320600.ece

I don't know what happened with the above near Louth these had about 3,000 head but wanted to increase to 8,000 that was in 2013

 

[Suffolk Serf]

Hmm. I would have thought Paul Rackham would have been on the lightest of land in the lowest rainfall and he didn't have finishers outside.

Some of those feedlot lines almost run in to infinity in the US

I guess a disused airfield away from housing in the East on light land would be the best to try such a thing - straw, arable by products , low rainfall and a long run hardstanding for the feed wagon

A lot of PR's yards were outside on concrete. The site now has a lot of new pig finishing buildings on it.

 

[Wastexprt]

Franz Buitelaar had some kind of feedlot in the Lincolnshire Wolds in the 70's/80's. Feeding 100's of cull cows on all sorts of stuff in some steep sided valleys, for shelter.

I worked there for a time in the mid 80s. It was quite a set up, all fed on veg waste and molasses. They loved it.

 

[twizz]

Look on google earth around Malton, north yorks. Birdsall used to have big outdoor cattle yards up on the wolds. Don't know if they still do or not.

Personally, if that is the production systems we are aspiring to in the U.K. I would rather quit cattle production.

#Race to the bottom!

That's them not water priory as I thought I knew it was one of them

 

[Wastexprt]

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/National/article1320600.ece

I don't know what happened with the above near Louth these had about 3,000 head but wanted to increase to 8,000 that was in 2013

I did an Odour Management Plan for Andrew a couple of years ago when he was looking at some LA enforcement action. The court threw the case out though due to the way the LA 'evidence' was 'gathered'.

I think he has scaled it back as the waste veg he used to feed his cattle is now feeding AD plants......