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Shep

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and the big difference is that ultimately we can find out about it speak out against it without getting sent to prison for 15yrs.
Not necessarily, there have been bank accounts frozen and money confiscated In Canada recently, for people involved with the wrong kind of protest.
Don't think it couldn't happen here, esp with a cashless society on the way.
 

Kidds

Member
Horticulture
and the big difference is that ultimately we can find out about it speak out against it without getting sent to prison for 15yrs.
Are you not aware of the police bill they are trying to get passed right now? It removes your rights to protest and gives the police rights to stop and search any peaceful protester they want to. Not quite as bad as the Canadian emergency laws brought into force recently but heading that way.

As for propaganda, do you think the Russians know they are only exposed to propaganda and do you think we are not?
Here is a question, you most probably saw that "tank" swerve to run over the car in Ukraine recently.
Can you tell me if it really was a tank and not some other tracked vehicle. Tank sounds so much better than armoured personnel carrier.
Was it a Russian tank in Kiev when the Russians weren't even in Kiev at that time or was it a Ukraine military vehicle?
Did he really swerve across the road in order to squash a civilian car or did the clipped bit from the beginning show him cornering too fast and just out of control with an unfortunate car in his path?
Try and find someone who has driven such a vehicle and in such a state of hype and ask them if they can even see clearly enough to swerve and hit a car on purpose never mind be able to steer it that accurately.
I'm not saying it didn't happen because it obviously did but the amount of twists to the tale is incredible. Just one example of the way things are portrayed to us to sell the story. It is endless and goes way beyond the fog of war.
 

BrianV

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Dartmoor
Are you not aware of the police bill they are trying to get passed right now? It removes your rights to protest and gives the police rights to stop and search any peaceful protester they want to. Not quite as bad as the Canadian emergency laws brought into force recently but heading that way.

As for propaganda, do you think the Russians know they are only exposed to propaganda and do you think we are not?
Here is a question, you most probably saw that "tank" swerve to run over the car in Ukraine recently.
Can you tell me if it really was a tank and not some other tracked vehicle. Tank sounds so much better than armoured personnel carrier.
Was it a Russian tank in Kiev when the Russians weren't even in Kiev at that time or was it a Ukraine military vehicle?
Did he really swerve across the road in order to squash a civilian car or did the clipped bit from the beginning show him cornering too fast and just out of control with an unfortunate car in his path?
Try and find someone who has driven such a vehicle and in such a state of hype and ask them if they can even see clearly enough to swerve and hit a car on purpose never mind be able to steer it that accurately.
I'm not saying it didn't happen because it obviously did but the amount of twists to the tale is incredible. Just one example of the way things are portrayed to us to sell the story. It is endless and goes way beyond the fog of war.
As they say "truth is the first casualty of any war!"
 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
Are you not aware of the police bill they are trying to get passed right now? It removes your rights to protest and gives the police rights to stop and search any peaceful protester they want to. Not quite as bad as the Canadian emergency laws brought into force recently but heading that way.

As for propaganda, do you think the Russians know they are only exposed to propaganda and do you think we are not?
Here is a question, you most probably saw that "tank" swerve to run over the car in Ukraine recently.
Can you tell me if it really was a tank and not some other tracked vehicle. Tank sounds so much better than armoured personnel carrier.
Was it a Russian tank in Kiev when the Russians weren't even in Kiev at that time or was it a Ukraine military vehicle?
Did he really swerve across the road in order to squash a civilian car or did the clipped bit from the beginning show him cornering too fast and just out of control with an unfortunate car in his path?
Try and find someone who has driven such a vehicle and in such a state of hype and ask them if they can even see clearly enough to swerve and hit a car on purpose never mind be able to steer it that accurately.
I'm not saying it didn't happen because it obviously did but the amount of twists to the tale is incredible. Just one example of the way things are portrayed to us to sell the story. It is endless and goes way beyond the fog of war.
i might look like a cabbage but im not that green.
i know first hand how 'inaccurate ' journalists can be.

but Thanks anyway for the heads up .

 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
Are you not aware of the police bill they are trying to get passed right now? It removes your rights to protest and gives the police rights to stop and search any peaceful protester they want to. Not quite as bad as the Canadian emergency laws brought into force recently but heading that way.

As for propaganda, do you think the Russians know they are only exposed to propaganda and do you think we are not?
Here is a question, you most probably saw that "tank" swerve to run over the car in Ukraine recently.
Can you tell me if it really was a tank and not some other tracked vehicle. Tank sounds so much better than armoured personnel carrier.
Was it a Russian tank in Kiev when the Russians weren't even in Kiev at that time or was it a Ukraine military vehicle?
Did he really swerve across the road in order to squash a civilian car or did the clipped bit from the beginning show him cornering too fast and just out of control with an unfortunate car in his path?
Try and find someone who has driven such a vehicle and in such a state of hype and ask them if they can even see clearly enough to swerve and hit a car on purpose never mind be able to steer it that accurately.
I'm not saying it didn't happen because it obviously did but the amount of twists to the tale is incredible. Just one example of the way things are portrayed to us to sell the story. It is endless and goes way beyond the fog of war.
papers and tv is telling this story this morning ... is it true ? well how bout you ask one of those 1.89 million refugees why they have left their homes and life behind ?

 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
Are you not aware of the police bill they are trying to get passed right now? It removes your rights to protest and gives the police rights to stop and search any peaceful protester they want to. Not quite as bad as the Canadian emergency laws brought into force recently but heading that way.

As for propaganda, do you think the Russians know they are only exposed to propaganda and do you think we are not?
Here is a question, you most probably saw that "tank" swerve to run over the car in Ukraine recently.
Can you tell me if it really was a tank and not some other tracked vehicle. Tank sounds so much better than armoured personnel carrier.
Was it a Russian tank in Kiev when the Russians weren't even in Kiev at that time or was it a Ukraine military vehicle?
Did he really swerve across the road in order to squash a civilian car or did the clipped bit from the beginning show him cornering too fast and just out of control with an unfortunate car in his path?
Try and find someone who has driven such a vehicle and in such a state of hype and ask them if they can even see clearly enough to swerve and hit a car on purpose never mind be able to steer it that accurately.
I'm not saying it didn't happen because it obviously did but the amount of twists to the tale is incredible. Just one example of the way things are portrayed to us to sell the story. It is endless and goes way beyond the fog of war.
or how about this as a possible pr coup by the kremlin
no prison but just a modest fine .....:unsure:
 

yellowbelly

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
N.Lincs
or how about this as a possible pr coup by the kremlin
no prison but just a modest fine .....:unsure:
Give it a couple of weeks and then see if anybody can find her - I expect there's more than one way to skin a cat in Russia 🙄
 

Johnnyboxer

Member
Location
Yorkshire
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