Valtra v John Deere

[Bossfarmer]

A lot don't understand how to look after oil immersed brakes. You're better off braking harder on short bursts than dragging them for ages on a downhill. Dragging them for long periods boils the oil off between the plates and then they get v hot and wear like fu*k. Couple that with a badly braking trailer and thats where the 150hr brake wreckers come from.

Anyone else agree with this? I normally put the revs off a fair distance from a junction and light pressure on brakes, ur saying i should be pushing the brakes harder to save them?

 

[Pistonbroke]

Ah come on now, I think our valtra is great, but hitch visibility is crap.

Could be worse our old case maxxums swing the hitch out so it's under the ring then pull it back in out of sight just as it gets high enough. Need Mystic Meg in with you

 

[Sid]

I had a head gasket go on a JD 6630 and 2 pistons were replaced at the same time due to where the gasket was gone . JD and dealer both helped and my share was £600 which lost me no sleep. Tractor was over 4 years old so your figure isn’t right

How do you know you didn't pay the full amount?

I've had "help" from Case, Valtra and JD, manufacturers and dealers alike.

You don't have to pay a premium price to get help!

 

[Fendt516profi]

On and off short sharp bursts

 

[Sid]

On and off short sharp bursts

Thats why I see loads of black marks from trailer brakes.

really should go down a hill the same speed as you go up.

 

[Pistonbroke]

Anyone else agree with this? I normally put the revs off a fair distance from a junction and light pressure on brakes, ur saying i should be pushing the brakes harder to save them?

Someone told me it says in the manual of a new holland not to brake for more than five seconds without letting them off

 

[Optimus]

Air brakes on the trailer makes a big difference.

 

[melted welly]

Could be worse our old case maxxums swing the hitch out so it's under the ring then pull it back in out of sight just as it gets high enough. Need Mystic Meg in with you

I just about lost my toes t one of them on a 5140, wouldn’t come down so I was in about with a bar and it dropped and swung out right onto my welly clad foot.
Aggressive little things!

 

[agri knives]

Anyone else agree with this? I normally put the revs off a fair distance from a junction and light pressure on brakes, ur saying i should be pushing the brakes harder to save them?

What he means is if you are on a long down hill road with a heavy load, don’t leave your foot on the brake continually , every time you lift your foot the discs reoil themselves , by leaving your foot on continually the brake disc runs dry And wear very fast.

 

[agri knives]

Air brakes on the trailer makes a big difference.

Air brakes make a huge differance , any touch of the brake puts on the air first , leaving the tractor brakes to do very little work.

 

[Chae1]

Air brakes make a huge differance , any touch of the brake puts on the air first , leaving the tractor brakes to do very little work.

Depends on brand of tractor. NH I feel tractor brakes first.

This is wrong I know and I've asked them if it can be adjusted but told no.

 

[agri knives]

Depends on brand of tractor. NH I feel tractor brakes first.

This is wrong I know and I've asked them if it can be adjusted but told no.

Is that why the brakes in the 7200 don’t last very long , I know of them going on several of them at around the 1000 hr mark. Pulling new trailers with proper set up brakes. What is the hardest machine behind a tractor on brakes.

 

[Lakesdigger]

Anyone else agree with this? I normally put the revs off a fair distance from a junction and light pressure on brakes, ur saying i should be pushing the brakes harder to save them?

Oil immersed brakes rely on oil to cool them. Holding them on for ages without letting them off boils the oil off between the plates at which point no cooling is present and you either warp the discs or burn the braking surface off.

Depends on brand of tractor. NH I feel tractor brakes first.

This is wrong I know and I've asked them if it can be adjusted but told no.

How old is the nh and is trailer on air brakes

 

[hally]

Tbh all tractors now should have proper 4 wheel breaking not just clonking into 4wd when the brake pedal is pressed. These new 60k valtras have front brake drums on each hub. Same and deutz have had them for decades even back when they were only 30k. Nothing like them for stopping power.

Jd has front brakes on 50k

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Sorry to go off topic but are valtras any good

 

[agri knives]

Sorry to go off topic but are valtras any good

If JD were better I’d have them , simple as that.

 

[hally]

Sorry to go off topic but are valtras any good

Stirrer

 

[J 1177]

Sorry to go off topic but are valtras any good

These are the days you miss John1594. He would have put all these arguments to bed and told you the virtues of buying a davie broooon.
Next thing you know you would have a 990, a flat cap and be keeping whippets.

 

[jondear]

Sorry to go off topic but are valtras any good

Just buy the Deere! Or the valtra makes no odds to me!

 

[Skintagain]

@Northeastfarmer how long have you had Deere’s?