Wales 20mph speed limit in every town

[Bald Rick]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1704232076994605357

 

[DeeGee]

We had a accident in the next village last week(40mph road).
The clock had stopped at 95 , the engine was loose on the road, having hit a wall on both sides of the road and a shop.
Driver walked out of it(denying that he was the driver),2 female passengers with life changing injuries. They had been drinking all day and high on coke.
Speed limits not going to make a difference to those types.

Often the way after high speed single vehicle collisions, the scumbags who were driving just walk away from the carnage…….

 

[br jones]

It's unfortunately still tens of thousands of people who are injured every year.

and how many are the car drivers fault ?

 

[Cowabunga]

and how many are the car drivers fault ?

Very few I’d wager. But that isn’t really the point. That being the damage done to the twits who run in front of a car whoever’s actual fault it is. But they aren’t likely to run out unseen in these new 20mph areas.

 

[HatsOff]

And do lower speed limits necessarily make a difference on the number of serious traffic accidents?

What proportion of traffic accidents are caused by people ignoring speed limits/ under the influence/ignorant pedestrians etc?

I think speed is obviously always a factor and in an accident makes things worse, but whether a change from 30mph to 20mph will change the KSI rates... I do not know.

But I haven't been arguing that it will....

What I've been saying Is a lower limit shouldn't massively impact on journey times because the main slowdown is caused by junctions and other people in cars causing traffic.

 

[AGN76]

Conwy seems to be largely ignoring the new limit. Denbighshire appears to be in a state of hysteria!

 

[tepapa]

If this is due to danger posed to pedestrians, why don't they put barriers/railings along the pavements so walkers can't step out into the road unless at a crossing

 

[Still Farming]

Rocketing now

 

[Bald Rick]

Conwy seems to be largely ignoring the new limit. Denbighshire appears to be in a state of hysteria!

Think this is where a major problem lies.

Some will ignore but others will stick rigidly to the limit so it will kick off with road rage and more than likely lead to more avoidable incidences

Drakey … take a bow, son

 

[Still Farming]

Mark Drakeford reprimanded for comments on 20mph speed limit questions

Mark Drakeford called a political opponent "an absolute disgrace"

www.walesonline.co.uk

 

[Y Fan Wen]

Had an incident a few years ago when a halfwit wiped himself out at what was estimated to be 80mph+ in a 60.

The Council then decided that this road was so dangerous, it now needed a 40 limit... Why/How the limit would have stopped the Darwin Award recipient was left unsaid.

No actual measure were put in place to slow traffic either....

Same thing happened here, one of those dead straight villages on an A road had a 50 limit which worked fine until someone got off a bus,walked round it and straight into the carriageway to be mown down by a car going the other way. Now it's 40 which is a pain.

 

[steveR]

Mark Drakeford reprimanded for comments on 20mph speed limit questions

Mark Drakeford called a political opponent "an absolute disgrace"

www.walesonline.co.uk

He really is an arrogant tosser!!

 

[DeeGee]

He really is an arrogant tosser!!

Yes he is. But the complainant ain’t too far behind him is he?
The Senedd seems to be a fertile breeding ground for such people.

 

[steveR]

Yes he is. But the complainant ain’t too far behind him is he?
The Senedd seems to be a fertile breeding ground for such people.

Yes, his spiel in teh Petition could have been better worded.

 

[MRT]

Yes he is. But the complainant ain’t too far behind him is he?
The Senedd seems to be a fertile breeding ground for such people.

A breeding ground it is, I hear the number of "members" is due to increase

 

[cheggars]

If this is due to danger posed to pedestrians, why don't they put barriers/railings along the pavements so walkers can't step out into the road unless at a crossing

Because its cheaper and they can implement them tomorrow, same exuse being used not to build new bypasses etc.

 

[steveR]

A breeding ground it is, I hear the number of "members" is due to increase

I wonder will they be creating new seats where non-Labour members might get elected??

 

[SilliamWhale]

I think speed is obviously always a factor and in an accident makes things worse, but whether a change from 30mph to 20mph will change the KSI rates... I do not know.

But I haven't been arguing that it will....

What I've been saying Is a lower limit shouldn't massively impact on journey times because the main slowdown is caused by junctions and other people in cars causing traffic.

And in towns I agree with you. But if I were to tell you one village near me has a four mile long 20mph zone, wide pavements and a road which kids won't be playing on regardless then its easy to see why people don't feel things are proportionate

 

[Derrick Hughes]

It was strange in Aberaeron this afternoon, cars rather that their normal driving over the 30, seemed to be driving well under the 20 , no need for Pelican Crossings anymore ,you can just walk across anywhere

 

[Cowabunga]

It was strange in Aberaeron this afternoon, cars rather that their normal driving over the 30, seemed to be driving well under the 20 , no need for Pelican Crossings anymore ,you can just walk across anywhere

There’s been a 20mph limit there for a couple of years. Indeed on the main A487 coast road, which that is a part of, I do not believe the limits have altered much at all through Aberaeron. However, from the Aeron Coast petrol station, past Lloyd motors and on to nearly Dolygwartheg farm up Lampeter Road, which is over a mile and is the A482, the limit has certainly dropped from 30 to 20 and it is absolutely ridiculously slow for the most part. Those parts that are naturally slow, like from the Lloyds Motors to the inner river bridge were always slow anyway because people drove appropriately, as 99% of people always do.