Wetting osr.

Flat 10

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Arable Farmer
Location
Fen Edge
Go on then. Best method? assuming no auger/conveyors just a heap. Seems quite daunting with just a loader bucket and a hosepipe. Experimenting with small amounts at the moment.
 

D14

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Go on then. Best method? assuming no auger/conveyors just a heap. Seems quite daunting with just a loader bucket and a hosepipe. Experimenting with small amounts at the moment.

Looking at the forecast for the next 2 weeks I don't think overly dry osr is going to be a problem! Its 10% here today and will be 20% with rain on it. The long term forecast is poor.
 

Flat 10

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Arable Farmer
Location
Fen Edge
Last year we used hose pipe with a fine shower pattern head .brother sprayed it while I turned it over with loader bucket .worked a treat
I think this is my only real option. You obviously managed to mix it well enough and not over do it then?
 

rob h

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Location
east yorkshire
It was so low meter would not give a reading .I think the trick is fine spray and keep mixing sprayed it as I tipped the bucket .We did it then left to stand a day.checked moisture then had another go. Got it to 8%
 

Brisel

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Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
Blowing moist air through the crop only real option now. Talking to grain trader this morning about dry osr he said they would reject at under 5% and think twice about 5.5%!

You won't get any moisture into the heap by doing that unless you're prepared to do it for months.

To bring a lorry load up by 4% you'll need around 1000 litres of water to do it. 4% of 29 tonnes = 1.16t. Mix well and get some air through it or it will sprout, go rancid & get bugs.
 

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Dear oh dear.

Rather than merchants throw a paddy and reject it you really would think they could blend onto a boat or into their store at some penalty, especially as there will probably soon be no shortage of wet rape. Sometimes the lack of cooperation with farmers who basically shoulder all the risk in very trying weather extremes is beyond belief IMO. It really is a one way street these days as far as give and take is concerned from suppliers and buyers.

So some will end up adding water while some spend energy taking water out. Its a nonsense and damaging for the environment and the carbon footprint.

I have blended wet and dry OSR in my own shed and had it settle it out quite nicely, so surely the trade can do it.

Oh well, another reason not to bother.
 

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Not really enough and could do with the space. Only a lorry load as yield was terrible.

Surely they could lose that on a boat or in a store at some penalty? If it was thousands of tonnes it would be different. Isn't there any discretion these days? I'd have a serious chat with my merchant, inform them of the situation and see if something could be arranged before I started splashing about with a watering can.
 

Flat 10

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Arable Farmer
Location
Fen Edge
Surely they could lose that on a boat or in a store at some penalty? If it was thousands of tonnes it would be different. Isn't there any discretion these days? I'd have a serious chat with my merchant, inform them of the situation and see if something could be arranged before I started splashing about with a watering can.
Discussions are ongoing. I was upfront with them as didn’t want any surprises/problems when it was on wheels.
 

Godber

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Location
NW Essex
Has anyone had success putting moisture back in with underfloor drying system?
Got some OSR at 5% and have the fans running to get 1% back in!
If humidity is at 50%(for example) given time the seed moisture will eventually end up at 6.2%
Air humidity is 80% this morning . It should be ok to make a start?
Airflow is good as only 1.2m high.
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
There was a discussion about this last year. Someone e.g. @Feldspar ? Posted some text from an old book that technically explained that basically it’s hard to do!

Frankly, for the hundreds of fan hours required to blow moist air through the bulk to raise the moisture content, the cost of the electricity will exceed the value of the weight gain.
 
Oh how a few days changes things. By and large we carried on cutting through the heat, but we did stop a bit when it got into the 4s. Now I am looking with increasing worry at next week's forecast. Problem is we'll have entire stores on one farm with dry rape and due to move to another farm with only a small amount of air floor storage and probably quite wet OSR. Just thinking about whether it's going to be worth carting back to the earlier farm and trying to mix the two lots together. I did say last week that we might be in a position where very dry OSR would be an positive rather than a negative, and so it will prove to be I think. We have had 20mm since it started raining yesterday.
 

Godber

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Location
NW Essex
Thanks @Brisel. Its impossible to add moisture if there is a 5C cooler ambient air temperature than the grain.
A low volume fan running through some winter days will not add moisture.
But at this time of year with high airflows it should be possible?
Will have a search for the old thread
 

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