What drill?

[bravheart]

From memory those were krm single discs originally on the leaf spring and 23 on 3m

 

[Robt]

What’s the row spacing on single disc?

how many rows on 4m?

14.2 cm or 28 rows on 4 m

 

[Robt]

From memory those were krm single discs originally on the leaf spring and 23 on 3m

20 on 3m
28 on 4m

 

[Drillman]

14.2 cm or 28 rows on 4 m

Can power Harrow take tungsten blades?

and what sort of size tractor is needed to boss a 4m version on hilly ground? By that I’m thinking of tractor size rather than power.

 

[Renaultman]

You on the flat or is it hilly? We can do 12k down hill but uphill I’m often down to 6-7k with combi the wetter it is the slower I end up going. I have vario set so once PTO speed drops below 950rpm it slows down. Need to keep revs up for belt drive fan .

On the flat but heavy land, TM155 running 4m combi plus 4m front press, straight into ploughing looking at 7 - 8 k max 25 acres a day and running out of diesel at the end of it. Same tractor can do a comfortable 40 acres on the Vaddy and have enough diesel left to do half of the next day.

 

[Drillman]

On the flat but heavy land, TM155 running 4m combi plus 4m front press, straight into ploughing looking at 7 - 8 k max 25 acres a day and running out of diesel at the end of it. Same tractor can do a comfortable 40 acres on the Vaddy and have enough diesel left to do half of the next day.

Our TM155 on 3m combi and front press could empty its fuel thimble in 7-1/2hrs very easily. Could do about 35 acre in that time though.

4m combi on T7 I can do 50 acre plus on a fill but does have a bigger tank.

 

[Robt]

Can power Harrow take tungsten blades?

and what sort of size tractor is needed to boss a 4m version on hilly ground? By that I’m thinking of tractor size rather than power.

Yes can have carbide tines. 4m is more about lift rather than lower. 200hp is minimum. 220hp is better

 

[Sambo]

Sulky 4m XEOS Combination Drill - Ripon Farm Services

www.riponfarmservices.com

 

[Drillman]

Sulky 4m XEOS Combination Drill - Ripon Farm Services

www.riponfarmservices.com

Seen that one. Looking at what @Robt says above we’re gonna need a bigger tractor first.

 

[Will 1594]

Drill man
, its tidy
its sr So adjustable seed rate
got one similar in spring With harrow ,and a drill mate

 

[Renaultman]

Drill man
, its tidy
its sr So adjustable seed rate
got one similar in spring With harrow ,and a drill mate

Tidy looking drill that.

 

[Edgey22]

Instead of ploughing, would it work for your system now if you used a sumo trio 3 instead of plough then follow with your combi? On the heavy clay here, we sumo and drill with a vad rapid 4m, a mx170 handled the drill fine last year but we still have the 4m kuhn venta combi on suffolk coulters

 

[Flatlander]

A single disc in wet clay creates a small slit. A twin disc creates a v. We sell both but I tend to push single disc. A single disc will vary depth ever so slightly more than a twin disc (again max 10% difference) a twin disc normally has closer row spacing than a single disc. Our single disc will turn when wetter and penetrate better when dryer

Looking at the discs with the notches cut in them I find it hard to believe that trash wouldn’t get wrapped around the cut away and ride the disc over the ground in damp conditions. Smooth discs wouldn’t. Single disc would need a seed boot and I find with mine if the soil is very dry like sand the forward speed will need to be sufficient to place seed before soil falls back in creating seed stranded at a shallow level. If the drill is older the row unit pins will need to be good to keep the disc at the right angle to get the right slot size. Double discs avoid a lot of issues that the singles suffer from but in a direct drilling situation they run short of down pressure and lack the ability to cut thru much trash. Also if speeds are not correct soil throwing becomes an issue leaving seed un covered

 

[Fraserb]

We demoed a sulky this backend, coulter pressure is no issue, it'll cut into almost anything. Coulter design is a lot simpler than the double disk on our lemken and more room for trash flow. I had plenty power on the 3m demo and pushed on at times to see what it would do and seed placement was still good, the single wavy disk cut through root balls where the lemken tended to ride over. The seed depth wasn't as consistent as the lemken, the lemken every seed pops through almost exactly the same time, sulky looked a bit un even for the first 48 hrs of emergence but soon evened up, we didn't get the field rolled which would have helped.

@Drillman our local dealer had an older 4m second hand in their yard.

 

[KennyO]

Sellers have a 3.5m lemken on their website. Would that be a option?

 

[Drillman]

We demoed a sulky this backend, coulter pressure is no issue, it'll cut into almost anything. Coulter design is a lot simpler than the double disk on our lemken and more room for trash flow. I had plenty power on the 3m demo and pushed on at times to see what it would do and seed placement was still good, the single wavy disk cut through root balls where the lemken tended to ride over. The seed depth wasn't as consistent as the lemken, the lemken every seed pops through almost exactly the same time, sulky looked a bit un even for the first 48 hrs of emergence but soon evened up, we didn't get the field rolled which would have helped.

@Drillman our local dealer had an older 4m second hand in their yard.

Which dealer is that?

 

[Fraserb]

Which dealer is that?

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Its not on their website but was certainly in the yard.

 

[chaos]

Has anyone tried just moving the seed pipes to the front of the powerharrow
in trashy conditions?

 

[Zebbedee]

Has anyone tried just moving the seed pipes to the front of the powerharrow
in trashy conditions?

Probably not a bad idea tbh

 

[Fish]

Probably not a bad idea tbh

On a short list of bad ideas, that would come near the top, below shooting Niagara falls in a barrel, and just above BASE jumping.
No till/ dd drills don’t mix the seeds with the trash for a reason.