what grinds your gears

[johnspeehs]

Yes and most of that scrap will be taken home and parked at the back of a hedge and never turn a wheel again, there are ppl who just enjoy collecting scrap.

 

[Mac10]

People who when selling a tractor take the top link off. Not talking fancy hydraulic ones, just the standard one

 

[jellybean]

Yes but if you put a tractor in an auction by the time it gets sold the top link, the balls and anything else relatively small has been taken, presumably by "honest" farmers!

 

[Mac10]

Fair enough in an auction, but when you buy it privately it's a annoying!

The fact the above all gets nicked from tractors in auctions annoys me more, though.

 

[borderterribles]

Yes but if you put a tractor in an auction by the time it gets sold the top link, the balls and anything else relatively small has been taken, presumably by "honest" farmers!

At the farm sale somewhere I worked, someone pinched the lightbulbs on saleday!

 

[Paddington]

Looking around tractors at agricultural shows I used to think they were supplied in a rush by the factories as most of the knobs hadn't been fitted yet (these were proper tractors with levers not consoles).

 

[DrWazzock]

For that matter why can't some people even keep the original top link and balls with the tractor when using it on a daily basis. They will leave them with an implement then rob the top link off another tractor when they need one, perpetuating cycle of wasted time and frustration. They say it doesn't matter, but it does if I have to spend 20 minutes searching for a top link when I need one.

Leave it on the tractor.

 

[Just a farmer]

'Land ownership revelations prompt Labour calls for new tax'

https://www.fwi.co.uk/business/mark...p-revelations-prompt-labour-calls-for-new-tax

Made me do some sums with sources at bottom.

England population - 55,620,000
England size - 32,221,300 acres
Amount of farmland - 22,538,447 acres
% of England thats farmland - 70%
Average farm size - 210 acres
Amount of farms (based on average size) - 107325

If in an ideal world every farm owned the land they farmed it would mean that 70% of england was owned by 0.19% of the population if every farm had 1 owner.
If every farm had 2 owners it would be 0.39%.
... 4 owners would be 0.77%.
... 5 owners would be 0.96%.

5 owners would mean each owner had 42 acres of land. Average bare agricultrual land was £6970/acre. This gives a value of £292,740. Slightly more than the average value of a house in England which was £226,234.

The defra link also gives estimates for average income per farm although this is based farms with at least €25,000 of standing output. It puts that at £38,000/farm, so with 5 owners it would be £7600/owner. This is significantly less than the average household yearly spend.

Now I get that I've taken certain liberties with the sums above and I understand that the point of the article is that 50% is owned by 25,000... But where does the inequality argument over land ownership end?! Is 1% really the benchmark figure to use for a good headline? Grinds my gears.

https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures...ations/population-of-england-and-wales/latest
https://assets.publishing.service.g...97013/regionalstatistics_overview_04apr18.pdf
https://www.fwi.co.uk/business/mark...agricultural-land-values-to-hit-five-year-low
http://landregistry.data.gov.uk/app/ukhpi

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

'Land ownership revelations prompt Labour calls for new tax'

https://www.fwi.co.uk/business/mark...p-revelations-prompt-labour-calls-for-new-tax

Made me do some sums with sources at bottom.

England population - 55,620,000
England size - 32,221,300 acres
Amount of farmland - 22,538,447 acres
% of England thats farmland - 70%
Average farm size - 210 acres
Amount of farms (based on average size) - 107325

If in an ideal world every farm owned the land they farmed it would mean that 70% of england was owned by 0.19% of the population if every farm had 1 owner.
If every farm had 2 owners it would be 0.39%.
... 4 owners would be 0.77%.
... 5 owners would be 0.96%.

5 owners would mean each owner had 42 acres of land. Average bare agricultrual land was £6970/acre. This gives a value of £292,740. Slightly more than the average value of a house in England which was £226,234.

The defra link also gives estimates for average income per farm although this is based farms with at least €25,000 of standing output. It puts that at £38,000/farm, so with 5 owners it would be £7600/owner. This is significantly less than the average household yearly spend.

Now I get that I've taken certain liberties with the sums above and I understand that the point of the article is that 50% is owned by 25,000... But where does the inequality argument over land ownership end?! Is 1% really the benchmark figure to use for a good headline? Grinds my gears.

https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures...ations/population-of-england-and-wales/latest
https://assets.publishing.service.g...97013/regionalstatistics_overview_04apr18.pdf
https://www.fwi.co.uk/business/mark...agricultural-land-values-to-hit-five-year-low
http://landregistry.data.gov.uk/app/ukhpi

But it's not about facts and fairness, it's about socialism and journalism.

The socialists don't believe anyone should own or control land as it "belongs to the people" (Which has worked REALLY well in Zimbabwe, isn't it ) and the journalists use the ownership details to stir up readership through envy.

 

[Av Gorritt]

But it's not about facts and fairness, it's about socialism and journalism.

The socialists don't believe anyone should own or control land as it "belongs to the people" (Which has worked REALLY well in Zimbabwe, isn't it ) and the journalists use the ownership details to stir up readership through envy.

I often wonder if any of the former African colonies are any better off since they gained their "freedom " I'm sure there must be , but I can't think of any . I'm quite sure many fair minded people will say , Yes but all the profits from the colonies went to Germany , Belgium, France, England etc. and a lot of it didn't filter down to the actual workers . And this will be so , in many cases , but as I see it , the profits , if indeed there are any now, will be going to despotic rulers , many of whom spend their aid money on new palaces , Mercs, and Jet planes to send their multiple wives and families to Europe to shop , for luxury goods . Or do I read the wrong news items ? What is perhaps more significant is the apparently complete breakdown of Law , and the common populace are either left to starve , or to become the victims of tribal warfare . Witness presumably , the great exodus of African people trying by any means available to get to Europe .

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

I often wonder if any of the former African colonies are any better off since they gained their "freedom " I'm sure there must be , but I can't think of any . I'm quite sure many fair minded people will say , Yes but all the profits from the colonies went to Germany , Belgium, France, England etc. and a lot of it didn't filter down to the actual workers . And this will be so , in many cases , but as I see it , the profits , if indeed there are any now, will be going to despotic rulers , many of whom spend their aid money on new palaces , Mercs, and Jet planes to send their multiple wives and families to Europe to shop , for luxury goods . Or do I read the wrong news items ? What is perhaps more significant is the apparently complete breakdown of Law , and the common populace are either left to starve , or to become the victims of tribal warfare . Witness presumably , the great exodus of African people trying by any means available to get to Europe .

Zimbabwe before Mugabe was far from being a happy, friendly beacon of caring compassion but it did effectively feed its people well and have spare to export. Now, under the land ownership reforms, productivity has fallen below that needed to keep the population fed.

 

[Celt83]

How come every time I’m told to drag this out the wife and kids get excited but I hear the theme tune to Jaws!

Not too bad this year, no gas left as no one switched it off and I robbed the gas pipe to keep our cooker going in the winter. All of which is my fault of course.

 

[Mac86]

Wasps

First nice day we've had to get outside and queen wasps are out and about bothering me.

 

[melted welly]

Fastracs, just fastracs.

 

[Lincs Lass]

Mr Fox came last night and made a mess, 10 chickens and 2 pet ducks less.
Last night was clear and bright with the moon so it was easy pickings, barsteward

 

[roscoe erf]

For that matter why can't some people even keep the original top link and balls with the tractor when using it on a daily basis. They will leave them with an implement then rob the top link off another tractor when they need one, perpetuating cycle of wasted time and frustration. They say it doesn't matter, but it does if I have to spend 20 minutes searching for a top link when I need one.

Leave it on the tractor.

I work with a right stroker he puts things down can't remember where takes things out of the motors so when you need them in the middle of a job you spend hours searching around the amount of lost time is scary could quite happily bitch slap myself

 

[Chae1]

Energy drinks, and the caffeine/sugar induced mood swings that comes with them.

There a legal way of taking drugs at work.

 

[grainboy]

At the farm sale somewhere I worked, someone pinched the lightbulbs on saleday!

Beat that, at Sale in Norfolk, Telehandler run up in front of Auctioneer, sold, then used for loading, or not as the case, for someone had swiped the Fuse board,
Unbelievable.

 

[Ukjay]

I work with a right stroker he puts things down can't remember where takes things out of the motors so when you need them in the middle of a job you spend hours searching around the amount of lost time is scary could quite happily bitch slap myself

Its your memory bigman - strangely I seem to recall number of straps vs ratchets and a few expletives convo

 

[roscoe erf]

Its your memory bigman - strangely I seem to recall number of straps vs ratchets and a few expletives convo

sorry who the f**k are you