What they worth?? (Lim x blue)

[gone up the hill]

Only way you can hit £3/kg or more with St Merryn on current grid and pricing for dairy steers is for a O-4L or O+ conformation grades.
I doubt very much if anyone sending groups of Fr/Holstein steers is averaging £3/kg

I've got 40 booked into tomorrow ......... I'm not expecting to average £3/kg

I have only sold 1 Fri steer in the last year that has been less than £3 kilo and that one was over 30 months + 5 moves so everything was wrong! rest have been between £3.04 and £3.35/40 a kilo.

Clearly ST M don't want Fri cattle so given the numbers you are sending im surprised you are still sending them there, they would be worth a lot more hauled North.

 

[beefandsleep]

How much should i have paid for these heifers View attachment 495032

£8-850

 

[Forever Fendt]

Not a lot to go off from that pic! Is it a pure lim?

yes pure

 

[Forever Fendt]

£8-850

oh dear

 

[Forever Fendt]

Not a lot to go off from that pic! Is it a pure lim?

 

[Northeastfarmer]

View attachment 495070 View attachment 495064

Hard to value pedigree stock but could of been around £1150-£1250

 

[onthehoof]

Yea I agree, one beer down and I worked it out wrong

Still £1600 if you pay £1100 is £500 margin which is the same as paying £900 and getting £1400 back.

So how much do you reckon feed costs would be to get them there?

 

[Northeastfarmer]

So how much do you reckon feed costs would be to get them there?

£499

 

[An Gof]

I have only sold 1 Fri steer in the last year that has been less than £3 kilo and that one was over 30 months + 5 moves so everything was wrong! rest have been between £3.04 and £3.35/40 a kilo.

Clearly ST M don't want Fri cattle so given the numbers you are sending im surprised you are still sending them there, they would be worth a lot more hauled North.

You don't get any P grades then

 

[gone up the hill]

You don't get any P grades then

No and have sent some very very plain/ narrow ended beasts and even these have been O grade.

 

[kps]

I have only sold 1 Fri steer in the last year that has been less than £3 kilo and that one was over 30 months + 5 moves so everything was wrong! rest have been between £3.04 and £3.35/40 a kilo.

Clearly ST M don't want Fri cattle so given the numbers you are sending im surprised you are still sending them there, they would be worth a lot more hauled North.

You ought to be buying every black and white in the country if you're getting that sort of money. I can't get anything like that and I've tried most firms. Can you economically keep black and white's to these big weights you say??

 

[beefandsleep]

The profit in b&w steers is all in the buying. As they convert and kill out so badly compared to continentals it isn't economical to grow them past minimum weights in my opinion. As soon as they are heavy enough they are taking up a valuable yard space is my view.

 

[gone up the hill]

You ought to be buying every black and white in the country if you're getting that sort of money. I can't get anything like that and I've tried most firms. Can you economically keep black and white's to these big weights you say??

Yep easily.

Wouldn't want to buy all the Fri steers about, like a good looking girl, you can have too much of a good thing sometimes!

Ref weights, madness to send Fri steers light ( unless they are NZ mongrels and stop growing at 560 kilos ) as with the grades/ kill out % weight is what makes them pay and don't forget you pay the same haulage/ deductions on a 560 beast as a 750 kilo beast so thus the heavier they are the more your spreading your fixed costs.

 

[Henarar]

Yep easily.

Wouldn't want to buy all the Fri steers about, like a good looking girl, you can have too much of a good thing sometimes!

Ref weights, madness to send Fri steers light ( unless they are NZ mongrels and stop growing at 560 kilos ) as with the grades/ kill out % weight is what makes them pay and don't forget you pay the same haulage/ deductions on a 560 beast as a 750 kilo beast so thus the heavier they are the more your spreading your fixed costs.

but if you get them gone quicker you can do more per year and spread your fixed costs

 

[gone up the hill]

but if you get them gone quicker you can do more per year and spread your fixed costs

No point sending an animal unless its eating more than its gaining daily/ fat/ heavy enough/ age up etc etc also you got to be able to buy them right and this is subject to many things, TB is another problem.

Currently smaller Fri steer stirks are making far too much, £450 is a waste of time for a 300 kilo Fri steer.

 

[bobk]

I'd say at the moment fri steers are making more £ for £ l/w . so long as there's some meat on them.

 

[bobk]

No point sending an animal unless its eating more than its gaining daily/ fat/ heavy enough/ age up etc etc also you got to be able to buy them right and this is subject to many things, TB is another problem.

Currently smaller Fri steer stirks are making far too much, £450 is a waste of time for a 300 kilo Fri steer.

I agree , best job was buying them for 150 quid on the green , virtually free .

 

[kps]

Yep easily.

Wouldn't want to buy all the Fri steers about, like a good looking girl, you can have too much of a good thing sometimes!

Ref weights, madness to send Fri steers light ( unless they are NZ mongrels and stop growing at 560 kilos ) as with the grades/ kill out % weight is what makes them pay and don't forget you pay the same haulage/ deductions on a 560 beast as a 750 kilo beast so thus the heavier they are the more your spreading your fixed costs.

Well your the expert but I struggle to see how big steers eating 15-16kg of dry matter can be economic. They'd be costing over £2 a day in feed

 

[An Gof]

No and have sent some very very plain/ narrow ended beasts and even these have been O grade.

You got a deal going with the grader?
I don't know anyone else doing numbers of B&W's that doesn't get any P grades.

 

[Sheepykid]

Well your the expert but I struggle to see how big steers eating 15-16kg of dry matter can be economic. They'd be costing over £2 a day in feed

I'd be inclined to agree. I've never seen the point in keeping the friesians to big weights. At 700kg live I would expect them to be costing nearer £3 a day. Hence needing to be putting on in excess of 2kg a day to break even. Some will do that but a lot won't.