What to do when the cows are gone

[unlacedgecko]

@unlacedgecko depends if you value money and work above family and friends. I wouldn't move to New Zealand if you swapped my 70 cows for 700 and gave me a farm. Unless of course I could just sell everything and move back! Depends on your situation but as @Jdunn55 has a partner and family here I don't see moving abroad would solve anything in this instance.

Tell them what you're doing. If they want to come they will.

I'm 39 this year. I've finally learned that one must live life for oneself.

 

[Beef farmer]

Tell them what you're doing. If they want to come they will.

I'm 39 this year. I've finally learned that one must live life for oneself.

You married with kids?

 

[tepapa]

Tell them what you're doing. If they want to come they will.

I'm 39 this year. I've finally learned that one must live life for oneself.

I left the girlfriend 3 times to go to NZ shearing for months at a time. She was still there when I came back and we got married.

 

[unlacedgecko]

You married with kids?

Not anymore

 

[FonterraFarmer]

Tell them what you're doing. If they want to come they will.

I'm 39 this year. I've finally learned that one must live life for oneself.

One persons dream can be someone elses nightmare..

 

[dinderleat]

One persons dream can be someone elses nightmare..

Can’t run away from yourself either ….

 

[ollie989898]

I left the girlfriend 3 times to go to NZ shearing for months at a time. She was still there when I came back and we got married.

I always say to young people, if it's love, they'll follow you anywhere around the world.

I've seen plenty of newly graduated folk in healthcare jet off across the world and never come back. Forget the salary or package involved, I believe long term the UK is screwed. There is no opportunity here for young people.

 

[ImLost]

I always say to young people, if it's love, they'll follow you anywhere around the world.

I've seen plenty of newly graduated folk in healthcare jet off across the world and never come back. Forget the salary or package involved, I believe long term the UK is screwed. There is no opportunity here for young people.

This probably isn't the thread to discuss it, but I used to be of a similar opinion. These days I tend to disagree. There is opportunity all around you if you are in the mindset to create or find it, then persue it doggedly enough. It's too easy these days to throw your hands up and say "ah well, I tried, but it didn't work out first time."
With so much technology at our fingertips and everything available "instantly" and so much impatience if something isnt available to us within 24 hours max of demanding it, no wonder my generation and younger haven't got the guts to see something through.
I'm a similar age to @Jdunn55 and found early on in life if I truly want something enough, I'll find some way to make it work. Ask me how that's going at the moment and you might get a bit of a negative reaction from me, but it is a process, and I'm at a low point in that process for a variety of reasons. I believe @Jdunn55 is too, hence my earlier post trying to logically figure out what the root of the challenges were.
I'll add a caveat to this and say that what you want has to be within the realms of being humanly possible. Another reason so many people give up is it turns out what they wanted was ludicrous and virtually impossible anyway.

 

[Rich_ard]

This probably isn't the thread to discuss it, but I used to be of a similar opinion. These days I tend to disagree. There is opportunity all around you if you are in the mindset to create or find it, then persue it doggedly enough. It's too easy these days to throw your hands up and say "ah well, I tried, but it didn't work out first time."
With so much technology at our fingertips and everything available "instantly" and so much impatience if something isnt available to us within 24 hours max of demanding it, no wonder my generation and younger haven't got the guts to see something through.
I'm a similar age to @Jdunn55 and found early on in life if I truly want something enough, I'll find some way to make it work. Ask me how that's going at the moment and you might get a bit of a negative reaction from me, but it is a process, and I'm at a low point in that process for a variety of reasons. I believe @Jdunn55 is too, hence my earlier post trying to logically figure out what the root of the challenges were.
I'll add a caveat to this and say that what you want has to be within the realms of being humanly possible. Another reason so many people give up is it turns out what they wanted was ludicrous and virtually impossible anyway.

I'd agree with you about the achieving what's possible. In farming though there are so many variables and people starting from different points or with other advantages, there is no one way. What works for you might not work for a guy in similar circumstances down the road, or anther it may but not for you.

 

[In the pit]

I'd agree with you about the achieving what's possible. In farming though there are so many variables and people starting from different points or with other advantages, there is no one way. What works for you might not work for a guy in similar circumstances down the road, or anther it may but not for you.

I have always followed one rule in farming and it seems to work across all types of farming “”keep things as simple as possible””

 

[ImLost]

How are you getting on @Jdunn55 ?

 

[som farmer]

How are you getting on @Jdunn55 ?

he's sounding quite chipper again, thankfully.

l think farming is an industry where you can get near to achieving your 'aims', mainly because we are to stubborn to know when to give up, that's a long way after many other industries.

you don't know what is possible, till you get stuck in. Had a bad accident back in 99, and was offered a fully equipped disabled bungalow, by the council/hospital, because they didn't think l would work again, the surgeon said l would be back to normal, in a couple of months, he was very optimistic, and very wrong.

l was determined to farm again, so back home, but the money/assets had gone, so built back up, from literally nothing. and being told it wasn't possible to do, which made me even more determined, it wasn't easy, but got there in the end, and it teaches you the value of money.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

Firstly, sorry I keep disappearing on here without replying, particularly to those who have sent messages, I do appreciate it, Im just not up to speaking to anyone at the moment, I will get back to you at some point but it may take a while, sorry

Anyway, everyone around me is pushing for me to sell the cows, and I'm too tired to fight anymore. I don't want to sell my cows but I've can't carry on as I am and I can't see anything changing

Everyone keeps promising there's some sort of amazing light at the end of the tunnel once they're sold, and they keep saying I can do whatever I want afterwards

But what do I want? I can't work it out, I've never thought about doing anything except having my own herd, I've never wanted anything else in fact.
So what do I do when they're gone?

I have no money to my name and don't have any a-levels just 9 gcse's including English and maths plus A*'s in chemistry biology and geography
But that's all sort of irrelevant if I don't know what I want

I'm pretty sure that once they're gone I don't want to do anything farming related but how do you figure out what you want to do? I'm 23 now so have missed the a-level boat and therefore university etc so as far as I can see it I'm back to minimum wage stacking shelves in tesco type jobs? I can't see how that's a light at the end of the tunnel as everyone is suggesting

Any ideas?

My daughter went back to university when she was 25 or 26 to re train as a nurse. Actually at 23 you are an ideal age for training, you will have reached your specific learning moment (Malcolm Knowles theories of andragogy), so don't undersell yourself. However if all you ever wanted to do is milk cows, keep milking cows.

 

[In the pit]

Pictures I took of my nmr diary

 

[bigw]

Pictures I took of my nmr diary

Your needing to fill it in!

 

[In the pit]

That’s the empty pages
Not many cows with mastitis a year max 12/15 out of 200