What vehicle?

Dave W

Member
Location
chesterfield
Son in Law bought a Defender, whilst I’m not a fan of Land Rovers I have to admit it was a nice car to drive, he’s now on it’s third engine so maybe regretting the purchase, should have gone Toyota.
The loyalty and following for land Rover baffles me when you keep hearing stories like that. But then they use 30 year old technology on the security system so no one keeps them long enough anyway
 
If you go out for the day or the evening or on holiday, do you really want to have a load of tools rattling around in the car, or go out in a car that smells of wet dog/diesel/dead sheep/whatever and then found you've sat in the blob of grease/oil/mud/calf scour that was on your overalls?
That’s one of the reasons p/u‘s are so popular, you can avoid most of that, 2 vehicles in 1
 

stewart

Member
Horticulture
Location
Bay of Plenty NZ
Disco 4, End of.
Yes you will need a good local independent garage to look after it, plus some change when it dies, but its VERY popular for a reason.
Drive one, and you’ll find out.
£800+/month buys a lot of options.
Discos are not that good to drive when compared to Japanese SUVs, they are only VERY popular in the UK, the rest of the world goes for comfort and reliability hence drive Toyotas.
 

Hampton

Member
BASIS
Location
Shropshire
Just spent an hour on google and would need to clarify these figures but basically a discovery 5 in pretty much poverty spec on a straight 3 yr lease for 15k miles a year is £39,000 + vat and I’d have to add a towbar. I’d get half the vat back so overall it’s just shy of £42,900 or £1200/month. Then there’s servicing and tyres on top. A defender 110 is very slightly cheaper but to be honest I don’t like the look of them so wouldn’t want to be getting in that every day. Also I’ve no idea what the insurance on a LR would be now since they are being stolen regularly.
A Vw Touareg on 3 years and 15,000 miles is coming out at £31,500 + vat so again half the vat back and it works out at £34,650 or £962/month plus servicing, tyres, towbar and insurance.
A fully loaded Ford Ranger Wildtrack V6 3yrs, 15,000 miles a year comes included with towbar and electrics. Also has a rear roller over the pickup bed is £30,600 + vat. I’m assuming I’ll get all the vat back still if obtained before July 24 so monthly cost is £850/month plus servicing, tyres and insurance. As an aside a VW Amarok v6 same as the Ranger but without a rear roller comes out at £27,454 plus vat or £762/month but I’d have to add the rear roller shutter. No idea on availability for any of them other than a Touareg which said available immediately.

Everything is big money!
The ranger is 30k plus vat?
Last time I priced on it was over £40k plus vat
 

Romeogolf

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Wiltshire
Just to agitate the Range Rover bashers…

I sold my 2011 defender 110 when prices went silly and cashed in.
I bought a 2008 RR vogue, 3.6tdv8 with 130k on the clock for £3500. I have run it for just over a year spending most of its life with an ifor or cattle box behind it and it has cost me the grand sum of £400 in maintenance. It has been used well. Tax is dearer than defender, I grant you and it isn’t too clever on diesel. However, I have xenon lights, heated and cooled everything, goes everywhere the defender did with significantly more comfort, speed, power and stability. It’s been all over the country as a shoot wagon and hasn’t missed a beat.
I wager if I put it on fleebag tonight I’d get my money back.
Yes there are horror stories, but if the worst were to happen and the thing was beyond repairable, I’d wave goodbye to my £3500 and buy another one for the same and still be better off than spending £1kpcm on hiring a vehicle. I am curiously fond of the old thing.
The irony is that I have a new SV autobiography parked next to it and yet I often end up taking the old one out to town in the evening, lovely to drive and refreshingly I don’t worry about someone opening their door into it.
 

stewart

Member
Horticulture
Location
Bay of Plenty NZ
I drive both, and by choice the Disco 4 wins easily, just my choice and opinion.
Fair enough, drive which one you prefer, it’s down to personal choice. However it’s only the UK where Land Rover/Range Rover are popular, the rest of the world goes for Land Cruisers, I tried to buy a Lexus 500 last year, there was a 4 year wait list and they had stopped taking orders so ended up with a British built SUV, it’s not too bad, although it will not hold its value like a Japanese vehicle and not as reliable, it’s already been back to the garage for a minor warranty job.
 

Bucks Boy

Member
Mixed Farmer
Just to agitate the Range Rover bashers…

I sold my 2011 defender 110 when prices went silly and cashed in.
I bought a 2008 RR vogue, 3.6tdv8 with 130k on the clock for £3500. I have run it for just over a year spending most of its life with an ifor or cattle box behind it and it has cost me the grand sum of £400 in maintenance. It has been used well. Tax is dearer than defender, I grant you and it isn’t too clever on diesel. However, I have xenon lights, heated and cooled everything, goes everywhere the defender did with significantly more comfort, speed, power and stability. It’s been all over the country as a shoot wagon and hasn’t missed a beat.
I wager if I put it on fleebag tonight I’d get my money back.
Yes there are horror stories, but if the worst were to happen and the thing was beyond repairable, I’d wave goodbye to my £3500 and buy another one for the same and still be better off than spending £1kpcm on hiring a vehicle. I am curiously fond of the old thing.
The irony is that I have a new SV autobiography parked next to it and yet I often end up taking the old one out to town in the evening, lovely to drive and refreshingly I don’t worry about someone opening their door into it.
I’ve got a 2004 diesel Range Rover. £395 Road tax, £377 insurance including road rescue (never used it). Pulls cattle box with ease. Never let me down. Hardly any depreciation. New suspension air compressor and rear brake calliper so far, less than £400 spent. Great vehicle to drive anywhere.
 

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