Wheat after beet in December

[Shropshirebuller]

hoping to lift another 20 acre of fodder beet this next week, would like to try and get it back into wheat as I have some seed that needs using up still in the shed.
What seed rates are folks drilling wheat at currently after beet?
Last year we put wheat in December and end of January but went too low a rate and got hammered by birds. The December stuff did ok but the January/feb drilled wasn’t worth doing.
Extase farm saved wheat seed

 

[Norfolk Olly]

We will be putting skyfall in after beet for the next couple of weeks at @225kgs

 

[Spud]

We were drilling Gleam after beet yesterday at 250kg/ha

 

[DrWazzock]

You’d need to know TGW and put some lower figure for percent establishment into the formula but I’d agree typically somewhere over 200 kg/ha. Rooks were the biggest issue for us as well. Bangers useless, scarecrows with hi viz jackets, tinfoil faces and rustling carrier bags tied to hands were better. I’d be avoiding a heavy preem as well if you can. But such late drilled crops can be a big yielder here due to less disease pressure. I think it’s just too wet in our area for us to drill wheat now though on heavier land. Probably do it on sand. Last time we drilled January was the dry winter of 2018. Sheep had eaten the tops, paraplow, power Harrow lightly, straight in with drill. 4 tons per acre. Crispin. Most years it’s just too wet/cold.

 

[Ruston3w]

I got caught out a couple of weeks ago with 30 acres of beet lifted, now wet. Only lightish land but I'm thinking the only reason to drill them is to use up the seed which hardly seems the basis for growing a crop. I'm going to try and stop myself drilling it (if there is some dry), have a decent first wheat next year. At least the fodderbeet were there for your own reasons, we should have lifted these earlier but haulage to the factory was a couple of weeks or so and with recent ambient temperatures put me off.

Richard.

 

[spin cycle]

a lot depends on the soil...lighter will drain/warm up quicker.....heavy will sit cold....and how beet come out

sorry if this is 'sucking eggs'

 

[ollie989898]

Agree with the above. If it will drill nicely then pop it in at a high seed rate.

 

[solo]

We used to plant after sugar beet, but the crows and rooks got so bad we stopped planting at the end of November and started again in February using winter varieties. If you plant now the corvids have the best part of 2 to 3 months to keep hammering it. Its very demoralising to see meter after meter of corn rows dibbed out. If you don’t have corvid problems then crack on with 250kg/ha at least.

 

[Sonoftheheir]

You don’t have to worry about WBF there I take it?

 

[Brisel]

450 - 500 seeds/m2

 

[Flat 10]

Some of these numbers seem very low, I’m on 200 plus in early October. I’d be at 275 to 300 now.

 

[robbie]

I drilled some after beet 10 days ago at 230kg/ha not because of the seed bed but because if the crows, how the crows are this year I wish id gone higher.

 

[JCfarmer]

I'd be 250kgs at least or 500 seeds, Exstase tgw around 56 this year 280kg more like.

 

[Salopian_Will]

I don't think you sow it too thick at this time of year. If you have the seed in the back of the shed to use up, use it all!

 

[Sonoftheheir]

I don't think you sow it too thick at this time of year. If you have the seed in the back of the shed to use up, use it all!

Better than the rats eating it in store!

 

[michael N123]

Better than the rats eating it in store!

Often see people trying to sell half a bag of seed ect on Facebook… just calibrate your drill so there’s nothing left an get it in the ground

 

[robbie]

Often see people trying to sell half a bag of seed ect on Facebook… just calibrate your drill so there’s nothing left an get it in the ground

Better to have a half bag over than run short by half a bag although it does depend on the acreage drilled. If you've drilled 250 acres and got half a bag left it's not as bad as drilling 10 and having half a bag over!!!!

 

[casper74]

260kg/ha drilled here today Extase out of the shed.

 

[ridger]

Birds are pulling my wheat out of the ground, they are just going up the row and pulling out each plant

 

[tullah]

Birds are pulling my wheat out of the ground, they are just going up the row and pulling out each plant

Plenty of bangers or such like then.