Wheat after Spring Barley

[limestone brash]

Have done this but probably won’t again
2nd SB or WB best cereal bet after SB (although i try to follow it with rape now)

 

[Chae1]

They call the mix Wharley up here. A pig farmer grew both for feed, would think maturity dates would be quite far apart.

 

[Zippy768]

They call the mix Wharley up here. A pig farmer grew both for feed, would think maturity dates would be quite far apart.

. That is what we call it. Wharley is destined for our feed shed.

 

[Spencer]

Well if winter doesn’t get a move on I’m in for some Wharley Never done it before but trying to get a block back on track following the wet of 2017. So I’ve now got quiet a bit of spring barley volunteers in some Grafton wheat. With grafton being early think they might be similar harvest dates? But really has anyone any experience of what might give the barley the best head ache? I see @bill and bens dad has experience of broadway star doing a job. Anyone else have any ideas?

 

[bobk]

My best wheat crop came after sb this year , it's my best field though .

 

[marshbarn]

Well if winter doesn’t get a move on I’m in for some Wharley Never done it before but trying to get a block back on track following the wet of 2017. So I’ve now got quiet a bit of spring barley volunteers in some Grafton wheat. With grafton being early think they might be similar harvest dates? But really has anyone any experience of what might give the barley the best head ache? I see @bill and bens dad has experience of broadway star doing a job. Anyone else have any ideas?

Atlantis does a good job on barley, in my experience.

 

[Grass And Grain]

+1 for atlantis. Broadway star will also work, but atlantis peobably does the best job.

 

[bobk]

+1 for atlantis. Broadway star will also work, but atlantis peobably does the best job.

Makes no odds for feed does it ? barley would be on the floor before harvest , mine was .

 

[Grass And Grain]

Crazy thought, would wharley yield more than straight wheat?

Don't know how you would sow it to get it to ripen evenly though.

 

[e3120]

Would topik give it a good sickening? Plenty of wheat products not approved for barley, but not always for crop safety reasons (aviator ).

More interesting is the other way round - how to avoid WW greens in WB sample without use of mouldboards.

 

[AndrewM]

Think topik kills barley when accidentally sprayed on a barley crop, but tends to leave volunteer barley in wheat.
Atlantis better bet.

 

[shakerator]

Would topik give it a good sickening? Plenty of wheat products not approved for barley, but not always for crop safety reasons (aviator ).

More interesting is the other way round - how to avoid WW greens in WB sample without use of mouldboards.

No

 

[Brisel]

Think topik kills barley when accidentally sprayed on a barley crop, but tends to leave volunteer barley in wheat.
Atlantis better bet.

This. Broadway Star isn’t good at actually killing barley even if it knocks it for six. Atlantis or Pacifica is stronger. Again, it won’t kill it but it will hold it back enough that it reduces the admix levels at harvest.

 

[Spencer]

Sounds like Atlantis could be the way to go.. Agro says nothing’s approved which I knew but thought something might knock it back enough to reduce the admix as said. Just a few areas where Barley brackled that might be a bit high without something knocking them back bit.

 

[Centre]

I have used this in rotation for years, it is the highest margin spring crop for us and the best by far at bg control. There is, apparently a take all risk but not seen any issues yet. Always applied muck/biosolids pre wheat which probably hides any issues, wheat herbicides generally deal with vols, although if shallow cultivated they grow quickly and get controlled pre-drill

 

[yellow belly]

Well if winter doesn’t get a move on I’m in for some Wharley Never done it before but trying to get a block back on track following the wet of 2017. So I’ve now got quiet a bit of spring barley volunteers in some Grafton wheat. With grafton being early think they might be similar harvest dates? But really has anyone any experience of what might give the barley the best head ache? I see @bill and bens dad has experience of broadway star doing a job. Anyone else have any ideas?

Grafton is a big heavy seed high specific weight so keep the combine sieve full with highish wind should blow over the back
For feed wheat you are allowed higher admixture than milling
I grew Mercia after winter barley a few years back it all went for milling despite some barley in the fields at ear emergence

 

[Acke]

Here in my neck of the woods,
SB get killd by hard Winters in 19 of 20years. But year 20 or so , it are some SB volontery ! SB is great befor WW!

 

[Chae1]

Volunteer spring barley looking fantastic at moment here.

Did a reseed in autumn, will be a fair bulk of barley amongst it for first cut if it makes it through winter. Heavy roller in spring will probably kill it, if winter doesn't.

 

[Spencer]

Volunteer spring barley looking fantastic at moment here.

Same here

 

[Oat]

Sounds like Atlantis could be the way to go.. Agro says nothing’s approved which I knew but thought something might knock it back enough to reduce the admix as said. Just a few areas where Barley brackled that might be a bit high without something knocking them back bit.

I have used Monitor before. It didn't completely kill the barley, but all the ears were distorted and blind