Wheat drilling 2020

Phil P

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
North West
What weather app is that? Like the rainfall totals
It’s the @Rhiza-UK Contour Platform gives historical and predicted weather along with a lot of other data.
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Cowcorn

Member
Mixed Farmer
Not at all. I needed a move and I see opportunities here for improvement. This method of establishing crops works here, whatever questions that raises about sustainability etc. If I was relying on DD into heavy clay soils, we wouldn’t have sown much in the last couple of weeks and that’s not very sustainable. Not getting many winter crops sown last year cost several 0s but that was because it went from too dry & wanting a shower to soften it up to a period of rain that lasted 6 months. Horses for courses.

They did put in 53 ac of spring beans with a local contractor’s Mzuri that produced just as good a net margin as the plough + power harrow + Rapid drilled crops.
A change is as good as a rest eh !!! Not to mention travel broadening the mind :):)A bit of heavy clay up north wouldnt be long softening the cough of the hard core dd brigade !!!
After heavy rain Tuesday night the sun reappeared with good drying that enabled us to plough and combi drill 60 acres of w barley
Indeed there are several combines working this evening cutting beans and s rape .
Not often that we win the toss of the weather coin against the east of england !!!
Rain tomorrow though but its only early Oct it will come good ,probably be dust rising at Halloween and those who drill from mid month onwards will end up with the best yielding crops . Forget last years mudbath, one thing i have learned over the last 40 years is no two seasons are ever the same.:)(y)
 

Renaultman

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Darlington
A change is as good as a rest eh !!! Not to mention travel broadening the mind :):)A bit of heavy clay up north wouldnt be long softening the cough of the hard core dd brigade !!!
After heavy rain Tuesday night the sun reappeared with good drying that enabled us to plough and combi drill 60 acres of w barley
Indeed there are several combines working this evening cutting beans and s rape .
Not often that we win the toss of the weather coin against the east of england !!!
Rain tomorrow though but its only early Oct it will come good ,probably be dust rising at Halloween and those who drill from mid month onwards will end up with the best yielding crops . Forget last years mudbath, one thing i have learned over the last 40 years is no two seasons are ever the same.:)(y)
My best yields are still September drilled.
 
A change is as good as a rest eh !!! Not to mention travel broadening the mind :):)A bit of heavy clay up north wouldnt be long softening the cough of the hard core dd brigade !!!
After heavy rain Tuesday night the sun reappeared with good drying that enabled us to plough and combi drill 60 acres of w barley
Indeed there are several combines working this evening cutting beans and s rape .
Not often that we win the toss of the weather coin against the east of england !!!
Rain tomorrow though but its only early Oct it will come good ,probably be dust rising at Halloween and those who drill from mid month onwards will end up with the best yielding crops . Forget last years mudbath, one thing i have learned over the last 40 years is no two seasons are ever the same.:)(y)
I said that to a farmer a few years ago in the 1990s
we never get 3 wet years in a row
he came back with 3 wet harvest in a row inthe 1950s

in the 1990s we had a year when pushing on hard in early October plough and combi drill was the only way
father was not happy as waiting had been past since 1960
he was at college in the 1950s and grandfather was not a crop farmer

I have learnt just because it has not happened in 40 years does not mean it cannot happen

wet years (autumns ) are more common now than they were in the 1970s and 80s
1in 3 or more compared to 1in 7 to 1in 5
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Cowcorn

Member
Mixed Farmer
I said that to a farmer a few years ago in the 1990s
we never get 3 wet years in a row
he came back with 3 wet harvest in a row inthe 1950s

in the 1990s we had a year when pushing on hard in early October plough and combi drill was the only way
father was not happy as waiting had been past since 1960
he was at college in the 1950s and grandfather was not a crop farmer

I have learnt just because it has not happened in 40 years does not mean it cannot happen

wet years (autumns ) are more common now than they were in the 1970s and 80s
1in 3 or more compared to 1in 7 to 1in 5
1982 1987
1993 1997 1999
2000 2001 2002 2004 2007 2008
2012 2013 2014 2019
All true, but you have to think positive . And later sown crops that go in well can beat hands down earlier drilled crops if we get a mild winter and bydv and disease take hold in proud lush forward crops
Of course it all depends on your climate and soil further north the earlier the better .I myself have never considered drilling before Oct at the earliest and have often seen wheat drilled in December after spuds in less than ideal conditions yield over 5 ton acre .
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4course

Member
Location
north yorks
the best/highest yields of grain( not the same thing as profitability) have come from a sowing of winter cereals ( barley in the first 1/4) have over the last 30 odd plus years come from sowings between the 20th sept to approx 15th oct but sometimes the earlier have done best and sometimes the later so we aim to start a few days before the 20th sept and finish before the 20thoct ,it aint rocket science, having finished harvest in or before the first week of sept
 

Renaultman

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Darlington
the best/highest yields of grain( not the same thing as profitability) have come from a sowing of winter cereals ( barley in the first 1/4) have over the last 30 odd plus years come from sowings between the 20th sept to approx 15th oct but sometimes the earlier have done best and sometimes the later so we aim to start a few days before the 20th sept and finish before the 20thoct ,it aint rocket science, having finished harvest in or before the first week of sept
We often start a few days earlier but that is probably itchy feet.
 

Renaultman

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Darlington
I am an atheist and at this time of year I don't even know what day of the week it is :(
Was my lightest field and possibly should have left it till tomorrow but hopefully tomorrow it will drill as most of it was drilled Tuesday and I want to get it all rolled.
After that, waiting for oat seed, beans to be cut, then 2nd wheats, in an ideal world that would all happen early next week.
Oats still aren't here and beans still to cut.
 

Northern territory

Member
Livestock Farmer
We have some reasonable clay which is pretty much all down to grass now and crops on lighter land.we never minded a rough cloddy seedbed in backend as you could always guarantee rain and it would take the weather. Spring is a totally different scenario and less cultivation would be a better idea.
 

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