Wheel weights/water question

[James]

If you were putting either wheel weights or water in the back wheel of a tractor with a hedge cutter on do you weight up both rear wheels or just the opposite side one?

 

[Agriimark]

If you were putting either wheel weights or water in the back wheel of a tractor with a hedge cutter on do you weight up both rear wheels or just the opposite side one?

Never needed to do it myself but id imagine do both as travelling on the road would be effected just the 1 side id of thought. Ballast both the tractor would be weighted enough to be stable whilst hedgecutting

 

[Macsky]

How does water ballast affect things at 40-50k?

 

[Hesston4860s]

I was told your better off ballasting the cutter than the tractor is that not the case !.

 

[Tomr10]

Only ever did it to a 590 do didn't notice the difference when only one tyre was filled

 

[john432]

Ballasted 580 70 38 tyres on my tractor ,probably close to 3/4 full, so from charts could be 600 to 700 litres of water.I do believe that the water caused a lot more drag at road speeds than if it was just an extra 1.5 tonnes towed or carried.
But water ballasting does make the tractor very stable on side slopes ,such as when hedge cutting. Centre of gravity of the water allways low.

 

[Macsky]

Can you fill them as much or little as you like, or are you better having them 3/4 full?

 

[john432]

The fuller they are, the ride gets rougher, as the volume of air gets less, the cushioning effect gets less as water cant be compressed. Valve at 12 o'clock and water up to there is I think the recomended max. Anything less is fine.

 

[daveydiesel1]

I filled my zetor full as i could get them for workin way loader and no difference on road and provides lots of stability and grip. Done front of 4455 for sprayin as we dont have valtra weights and helped alot

 

[Tomr10]

Did our 10 to

 

[Tomr10]

The fuller they are, the ride gets rougher, as the volume of air gets less, the cushioning effect gets less as water cant be compressed. Valve at 12 o'clock and water up to there is I think the recomended max. Anything less is fine.

12 o'clock is full of water

 

[rob h]

Not a fan of water ballast.we bought a 6499 2 years ago one of the first jobs was trailering .I thought it was sluggish setting off and the ride was not good. After a full day the tyres were verry hot.i left it parked up a couple of hours and they were still hot.so I took the valve out and the water was black and steaming. I had no idea they had water in them drained them and next day it was like a different tractor

 

[Macsky]

Does tube/tubeless make any difference?

 

[Macsky]

Also, are there any tables/charts/calculation for working out what weight of water you can put in a certain tyre size?

 

[ARW]

Does tube/tubeless make any difference?

Yes if you ballast a tyre that’s tubed the tube rubs through internally

 

[James]

Ballasted 580 70 38 tyres on my tractor ,probably close to 3/4 full, so from charts could be 600 to 700 litres of water.I do believe that the water caused a lot more drag at road speeds than if it was just an extra 1.5 tonnes towed or carried.
But water ballasting does make the tractor very stable on side slopes ,such as when hedge cutting. Centre of gravity of the water allways low.

Same size tyres here and it would be for hedge cutting. What charts are you referring to

 

[kill]

Only ever ballasted one wheel here and at 40k it was left in for last 4 years and driven many thousands of miles with and without the trimmer and never been a problem. 520r 38 tyres filled up to 10 to two level so three quarters I guess

 

[Courier]

12 o'clock is full of water

Actually nearer75% unless you use an internal air release tube.

 

[s~~t shoveller]

Got ballasted rears On a 50k loader tractor here,been using four years ,no bother and can’t tell the difference.bkt tyres and ballasted shortly after fitting them but were on a week before ballisting to assess the situation

 

[Macsky]

Got ballasted rears On a 50k loader tractor here,been using four years ,no bother and can’t tell the difference.bkt tyres and ballasted shortly after fitting them but were on a week before ballisting to assess the situation

It’s a 50k loader tractor I’m looking at sorting too, recent bkt 520/70r38s on it.
Any idea what volume they took to fill @kill ?