When push comes to shove .

Discussion in 'Brexit & Politics' started by bobk, Sep 11, 2018.

  1. Danllan

    Danllan Member

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    That's clever, I see what you did there, copied my idea but substituted words round, well done. What with this and the use of Latin tags, it seems you are actually learning from me. (y)

    But what's this new literary tick you have? We cured that awkward stutter, but now you seem to have adopted a '... 50 years...' mantra, again and again and again... Odd.

    Anyway, no comment to give on the matter of large global countries thinking of leaving the ROI because it will have to do what it's told by Brussels / Berlin? :scratchhead: You mustn't bury your head in the sand you know! :)
     
  2. Ashtree

    Ashtree Member

    I have no comment on companies leaving as I haven’t heard of such.
    Maybe you think the big social media companies who are going to have their wings clipped might bail out. I don’t know. BUT they are on the cusp of being reigned in, in all markets and countries and being forced to be more transparent etc. Good thing too.
    Let me in on the “rumours” at some point. Do provide some commentary on the provenance of such rumours while you are at it. I always like to look at the back breeding in an animal ..... ditto in “rumours”. Amazing how often the rumours turn out to be very mongrel indeed.
     
  3. Muck Spreader

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    Sterling will most likely fall further post Brexit against all other major currencies, especially in a no deal outcome. This would result in further hikes in the base rate to try and control the resulting inflation, therefore mortgages will become more expensive and unaffordable for some. Carney is just telling how it is.
     
  4. caveman

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    Yep.
    And the euro will collapse when it loses our membership fee.
    What do you think all this stink is about Hungary?
    It's only about starting the ditching the states that are a liability to the club.
     
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  5. yin ewe

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    The truth is no-one knows as a country has never left the EU. I hope that the country is better off, but I expect not to be worse off. My best guess is that the vast majority of people will see little, if any change in their lives.
     
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  6. wanton dwarf

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    In Germany house rents are regulated.

    Not a bad thing IMHO.
     
  7. Muck Spreader

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    Why would the Euro collapse on the back of the few billion the UK contributes. The Euro is the second most traded currency in the world so anything that affects it, still affects the UK.
     
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  8. Someone’s wishful thinking?
     
  9. wanton dwarf

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    Most of Europe's finance is performed via London.

    The Euro is coming out of a "Quantative Easing" asset purchase phase to mop up bad debt.

    Italy will either have problems within the Euro or out of the Euro.

    General stability problems within the EU but IMHO the Right will eventually gain precedence so I don't see the EU being destroyed.

    Russia.
     
  10. Danllan

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    Social media companies too? :eek: Are you telling us that you, who usually have the low-down on everything :rolleyes:, aren't aware of what's going on in your own backyard? I'm sure that just a little bit of digging in the right place will reveal all to your gaze. (y)

    That written, agreed that the likes of Facebook & co. have been playing free and loose and should be subject to more regulation in some areas. The question in that regard is will there be uniform or piecemeal international action? The first being necessary, but the second being more probable... :banghead:
     
  11. Ashtree

    Ashtree Member

    Take a moment here. You buy into rumours that several large corporations will leave Ireland (EU), because they don’t like what the EU tells Ireland!! Ergo they don’t like EU regulations. You think they will go to UK to be outside of this EU remit.......
    Think of this as an exam question. Don’t just write the first thing that enters your head ......
    Write a few bullet points ..... like that excellent teacher told you back in the day. Construct a logic, argument and conclusion.
    Ah, now you see it ...... you have already, through rational thought and written bullet points, seen how you will deconstruct the rationale to these scurrilous rumours. The legal brain once again to the fore.

    1. The EU is the largest single market in the world, and ALL major corporations will want to be right in there.
    2. The single market and customs union within the EU construct makes business easy and frictionless.
    3. No doubt, there are protectionist tendencies within the EU, and so being inside gains for one self a slice of that protective blanket.


    Must dash off now to see to a nice bunch of limmies who are enviously eying the next paddock ....

    By the time I get back to this matter I expect you will have another half dozen strong points made in the lead up to your “coup de grace” where you will once and for all sink these rumours without trace.(y)
     
  12. Danllan

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    Hmm... you are critical of 'rumours' (a.k.a. facts Ashy can't find) while expounding downright lies, reassuring moral standpoint that. The old nut that ' The EU is the largest single market in the world...' it isn't and hasn't ever been by any internationally recognised measure - the USA has a bigger GDP even while the UK is still part of the EU, take the UK away and its way behind the USA and only just ahead of China, for now.

    Or perhaps you meant in terms of consumer numbers, no... wrong again, the EU having well under half the population of both China and India, take the UK away and that becomes less than a third. I guess there could be another kind of market you are referring to, perhaps that in cheese or cut flowers, but in terms of actual money and consumers the EU is way off what you claim. Any more fake n̶e̶w̶s̶ facts? :)
     
  13. Ashtree

    Ashtree Member


    Good grief ..... do take a moment to acquaint yourself with latest to hand GDP numbers. The generally accepted measure of the size of an economy. I’m quite disappointed in you actually. One does expect a man of letters to be rather more in tune with economic affairs.


    http://www.worldometers.info/population/china-eu-usa-japan-comparison/
     
  14. Two Tone

    Two Tone Member

    No! Project Brexit has evolved into a desperate hijacking by the Project Fear gang who simply cannot accept the will of the people and will do anything the can to disrupt or try to prevent the process of the UK leaving the EU. Simples!!!

    It's like that bunch of limmies eying up your next paddock. They have no respect for others with a different opinion and like to bulldoze, pushing and shoving everybody else out of the way till they get what they want!
     
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  15. Ashtree

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    What a wonderful analogy.. and those limmies being a French breed and all(y)
    Should have stayed with the Hereford’s I used to keep back in the day.:unsure:
     
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  16. Two Tone

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    You forgot the bit about having to eat them with some sort of sauce (probably invented by the French!) to make them taste anything like as nice as a bit of Hereford.
     
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  17. Danllan

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    Hmm... very interesting, the page you have linked to gives the 'latest' 2014 figures... :banghead: which, if I recall rightly, the IMF later corrected*. As for now, the World Bank, IMF and UN disagree with you - fools :rolleyes:

    http://statisticstimes.com/economy/countries-by-projected-gdp.php

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

    It's those pesky facts again... :mad: :)



    *To be fair, the IMF has a habit of publishing things that it quickly realises are wrong...
     
  18. Ashtree

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  19. yin ewe

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  20. caveman

    caveman Member

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    Yep.
    And if they'd got their fingers out and got on with building the Spitfires they were charged with building, the battle of Britain wouldn't of been such a close call.
     

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