- Location
- Dumfries & Galloway
Taken from my March dyke this afternoon. Zoom in you can see it's all sodded for planting
When timber security was also a thing
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Taken from my March dyke this afternoon. Zoom in you can see it's all sodded for planting
Jasper
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It’s utter madness
- Location
- Dumfries & Galloway
It's fvcking disgusting to see. Some London based investment company bought the land 18 months ago simply to get the grant money
It should be criminal
Not much wildlife in those types of plantations.
Yet rewilding is a government goal. Doesn't make any sense.
- Location
- Dumfries & Galloway
I'm not sure the specs but I do think there is a stipulation where a % of the land to be planted has to go into native/hardwoods... But the overwhelming majority will be sterile Spruce.
No wildlife. No ecological diversity. Between this and the rewilding idiots letting land go fallow there will be no UK wildlife left - and no doubt it'll still all be the farmers fault!!
And what's worse - the litter of dead needles on the ground release more Methane per hectare than any animals would stocked at the highest rates.. Methane is bad - remember!
Most of those trees will probably end up as pallets (which will get destroyed/burnt after 1 or 2 uses) or straight into the power stations, along with all the felling trash - releasing all that precious carbon they've spent their life 'capturing'
It's all totally bvllshit.
Jasper
Member
Just think about all the hard work that’s gone into getting that ground to be productive and help feed the nation all to be thrown away chasing some fairy tale eco rubbish
Hilly
Member
- Location
- Scottish Borders.
Thanks , farms in the area have been planted last one was 600acre , one farm away from me .
Hilly
Member
- Location
- Scottish Borders.
They should plant some of Southern England there would be a bloody outcry they get away with it up here not enough folk see it .
Bogweevil
Member
Do try and keep up; 23% of the South Downs National Park is woodland.
Surrey at 31% is the most wooded, while West Sussex 23%, Kent 29% East Sussex has about 26%. These are some of the other most wooded counties in England. The reason is the very infertile wealden and heathland soils which are unsuited to agriculture. Interestingly cutting down pines on heathland to restore the heathland habitat is a biodiversity net gain. In Scotland Argyll and Bute at 28% forest is the most forested.
The Lake district 13% is one of the least wooded, while Dumfries and Galloway is 14%. Lincolnshire is about 2%.
Cities, especially London 21%, have more trees than most rural areas, which is as it should be.
nails
Member
- Location
- East Dorset
Still a lot of trees round here, far more than just after the second world war. I go to Scotland regularly and just wonder what all that expanse of "open" country looked like years ago when it was ancient forest.
nails
Member
- Location
- East Dorset
I dont doubt it but maybe the re planting should have kept up somewhat more. If you take that Sycamore Gap tree , why was it the only tree for miles around when they obviously will grow there. The answer is sheep.
- Location
- Dumfries & Galloway
All that to the North is forestry
And when I saw all that to the North... Sycamore Gap is the pin at the bottom
Wouldn't an option be to plant large shelter belt forests on Dartmoor & other moors, it only takes the government to give a decent financial incentive & ignore all eco nut shouts, to me this would be a win win for graziers land owners & the ecology.
Devil's advocate
Member
- Location
- Posh side of Barnsley
The estate I live on has a huge amount of feorestry.
The low wet ground we used to get oak stakes & gates at a discount if for use on estate land. We have post & rail fences over a hundred years old.
Trees are great on wet heavy land, but now the forestry is losing money because of restrictions on felling, thinning & the insistence of including weeds in re planting.
The low wet ground we used to get oak stakes & gates at a discount if for use on estate land. We have post & rail fences over a hundred years old.
Trees are great on wet heavy land, but now the forestry is losing money because of restrictions on felling, thinning & the insistence of including weeds in re planting.
Would that be commercial forest or native forest.
Which one would you like to see in your local area?
As we seem to import commercial wood then it should be whatever is commercial, a trees a tree whatever its type & better than nothing, for it to work the majority must be commercial.
Devil's advocate
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- Location
- Posh side of Barnsley
Local ones have to let trees die & rot to feed insects.
Good commercial forestry is great, but by free choice not evicting tenants.
- Location
- Dumfries & Galloway
Look that picture there's lots of blocks/strips - all the crap had been planted leaving the productive land.
I've no issue with shelter blocks/strips and think many owner/occupied farms could do a lot more - as you say it would be an easy win-win. But I have a real problem with blanket planting good land