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Think the best I’ve ever seen was vacuum made silage. Not very practical but by golly amazing stuffabsolutely
Think the best I’ve ever seen was vacuum made silage. Not very practical but by golly amazing stuffabsolutely
what is vacuum made silage?
I saw it on w made by an advocate of the system David Lance on Dartmoor at the time. Flail cut grass, wilted then flail harvester pick up and placed in a plastic lined Earth pit (small scale size but bigger than an Ag Bag type system). The pit is rolled and afterwards the plastic lining is folded over sealed and a vacuum pump attached to the outlet and run for several days to draw any remaining air.what is vacuum made silage?
Longer chop silage has a lower carbon output as there is a lot less fuel used making it, then as cattle eat less of it you need to make less silage , so wagon silage has to have a far lower carbon output figure.I agree, however, in reality in the heat of battle trailers are coming in from a SP thick and fast (or should be) the time per load on the clamp is much less than a one man band with a loader wagon, when the man on the buck-rake has much more time to manage the clamp. To deal with large volumes, the clamp equipment is usually bigger and heavier in a SP team than a one man band's buck- rake tractor also. So it's time v weight.
But, taking all factors in, with the right equipment and driver, short cut grass is much easier to consolidate in the clamp, plus you can get more in if under pressure.
As regards feeding, it's more complicated, and depends what and how you feed. The objective is to increase DM intake, however the ruminant must also have time to process what it eats. Longer cut grass maintains stomach PH better.
Given the world we live in now, it would interesting to know which creates the most methane, short or longer cut grass ?
all so because the cattle eat less the do not get fat as quick or give as much milk , which is not good at the cost of inputs todayLonger chop silage has a lower carbon output as there is a lot less fuel used making it, then as cattle eat less of it you need to make less silage , so wagon silage has to have a far lower carbon output figure.
Actually they thrive better as they lie down happy chewing their cud , the precision chop runs through their stomach far too quick for all the nutrition to be taken in.all so because the cattle eat less the do not get fat as quick or give as much milk , which is not good at the cost of inputs today
Cows are ruminants, the longer chop length allows them to ruminate for longer, i.e. getting more nutrient out of less grass/silageall so because the cattle eat less the do not get fat as quick or give as much milk , which is not good at the cost of inputs today
If you want out from any cattle the more they eat the better the do ,put cattle in a field of long grass then in field of short grass and see which do the bestCows are ruminants, the longer chop length allows them to ruminate for longer, i.e. getting more nutrient out of less grass/silage
And wagons are for harvesting the short high value grass that cows would graze. You’d be suprised as to how many people don’t understand this and start slagging off wagons.If you want out from any cattle the more they eat the better the do ,put cattle in a field of long grass then in field of short grass and see which do the best
No but if it’s rolled and ensiled better they will perform better whatever chop lengthBut not as good for the cows who eat more fine chop but produce no more .
No they thrive better , they don’t waste as much, we did trials and the cows ate less wagon silage and milked better than when fed sp silage.all so because the cattle eat less the do not get fat as quick or give as much milk , which is not good at the cost of inputs today
Because jimmy does not understand or work for big out fitsWonder why none of the 1000 cow herd’s around us don’t use a wagon
I was on a pit on Saturday using one of them train wheel roller things while long chopped box grass was coming in… and really fealt sorry for the lad on the pit It would be hard work without a dedicated rolling tractor and that stuff coming inBuckrake men complaining of a 12t unwrapped round bale......
Cows are ruminants, the longer chop length allows them to ruminate for longer, i.e. getting more nutrient out of less grass/silage
I was on a pit on Saturday using one of them train wheel roller things while long chopped box grass was coming in… and really fealt sorry for the lad on the pit It would be hard work without a dedicated rolling tractor and that stuff coming in
First time I’d used them was impressedMost contractors around here now bring the train wheels with them for someone to roll the pit with.
First time I’d used them was impressed