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Which spring barley variety??

Devon James

Member
Innovate UK
Location
Devon
What's the standing power like for sienna for anyone that's grown it for a heap .
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You may have to zoom in but this is some of our Sienna. I took the photo mainly because I wanted to remind myself of the straw yield. And after a dodgy start with having heavy rain just after the drill left the field over the easter weekend it ended a great crop.
It stood well, not many heads cut off onto the ground like other varieties in the past.
 
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You may have to zoom in but this is some of our Sienna. I took the photo mainly because I wanted to remind myself of the straw yield. And after a dodgy start with having heavy rain just after the drill left the field over the easter weekend it ended a great crop.
It stood well, not many heads cut off onto the ground like other varieties in the past.

good bouts of straw there wat size of header is that?
 

mossop

Member
Location
alyth
We switched to sienna last year but decided to grow it for feed instead of malting , so it got a bit more n , stood up really well , we were concerned at harvest time as the heads seemed small but it must've been sheer numbers as it turned out to be quite a good crop , didn't really go flat even over previous harvest hen pen middens , was also reasonably easy to thresh
 

Devon James

Member
Innovate UK
Location
Devon
good bouts of straw there wat size of header is that?
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20 foot header. This was the best crop. After veg which helped. Incredible

Just looked back. It did 1.8 tonnes/acre straw and 3.7 on the grain. Average was 3 tonne over whole area. Like I mentioned growing again this year to see how it does over a different year
 
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Hooby Farmer

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
roe valley
What does variety does everyone recommend just for the feed market? We have grown propino, concerto and westminster, but there has not been a noticeable difference in yield quantity. We do tend to leave a longish stubble but straw isnt really a big deal for us. Perhaps it is a scale issue we are not growing enough to see a difference from one year to the next..
 

Bullbeeef

Member
@Devon James who does your crop walking? Have a sneaky feeling I know who..

Growing Westminster this year, was really disappointed with sienna last year compared to it but might give it another chance depends what acreage I grow. Have also bought several tonnes of ovation to try. See how it goes.
 

Chae1

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
How about Scholar
@Chae1 grew it last year
Didn't really get a fair chance to be honest. Was drilled in first week of May. Both fields after long term ley and had been wrecked out wintering cattle on them before ploughing. First field did alright. Didn't get copper and had a long dry spell where it was stressed. Second field went flat from side to side. Agronomist decided to put on canopy at flag leaf rather than ccc. Which I blame although he's never admitted anything. Another field seed concerto after ley did same.

Anyway in conclusion, I would say scholar would out yield propino. We've been stuck at 3t/acre with it and large proportion of field that didn't go flat yielded well over 3t. Less straw than propino which is a drawback for us. Going to try some again this year. Think Planet would be better as higher yield and plenty straw.
 

Sandy

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
Didn't really get a fair chance to be honest. Was drilled in first week of May. Both fields after long term ley and had been wrecked out wintering cattle on them before ploughing. First field did alright. Didn't get copper and had a long dry spell where it was stressed. Second field went flat from side to side. Agronomist decided to put on canopy at flag leaf rather than ccc. Which I blame although he's never admitted anything. Another field seed concerto after ley did same.

Anyway in conclusion, I would say scholar would out yield propino. We've been stuck at 3t/acre with it and large proportion of field that didn't go flat yielded well over 3t. Less straw than propino which is a drawback for us. Going to try some again this year. Think Planet would be better as higher yield and plenty straw.
Canopy won't do much at flag leaf, 3c would be better on at t1
 

phil

Member
Location
Wexford
Didn't really get a fair chance to be honest. Was drilled in first week of May. Both fields after long term ley and had been wrecked out wintering cattle on them before ploughing. First field did alright. Didn't get copper and had a long dry spell where it was stressed. Second field went flat from side to side. Agronomist decided to put on canopy at flag leaf rather than ccc. Which I blame although he's never admitted anything. Another field seed concerto after ley did same.

Anyway in conclusion, I would say scholar would out yield propino. We've been stuck at 3t/acre with it and large proportion of field that didn't go flat yielded well over 3t. Less straw than propino which is a drawback for us. Going to try some again this year. Think Planet would be better as higher yield and plenty straw.
You need terpal on Planet
Especially if sowed late
 

Happy

Member
Location
Scotland
Was speaking to a grain merchant last night who had a customer grow a 4t/acre crop of Sienna last year and said there was loads of straw too. Sounds similar to what @Devon James has posted.
Told me this after a sharp intake of breath and tooth sucking in response to me saying I was going 100% Laureate!
 

Chae1

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
Canopy won't do much at flag leaf, 3c would be better on at t1
I know. Should have said at time and hopefully both learned a lesson. Would have sprayed about 160 acres that looked like going flat. 60 acres with canopy rest with delsee which is ethephon based . 40 acres done with canopy went flat side to side.
 
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Devon James

Member
Innovate UK
Location
Devon
@Devon James who does your crop walking? Have a sneaky feeling I know who..

Growing Westminster this year, was really disappointed with sienna last year compared to it but might give it another chance depends what acreage I grow. Have also bought several tonnes of ovation to try. See how it goes.
Mark and Richard. That what you thought?!
 

Sandy

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
Was speaking to a grain merchant last night who had a customer grow a 4t/acre crop of Sienna last year and said there was loads of straw too. Sounds similar to what @Devon James has posted.
Told me this after a sharp intake of breath and tooth sucking in response to me saying I was going 100% Laureate!
What's wrong with Laureate?
 

Fen Farmer

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Cambs
First year for us growing spring barley. Have opted for Irina, on some very light, fluffy, black fenland soil. Does anyone have much experience on this soil type?
Planning on going easy on the N, and full works on the PGR.
 

Jerry

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Devon
Another vote for Sienna, will be third year with us growing it for seed this year.

We grew it first time in a field side by side with Propino. Both drilled and treated the same. Sienna out yielded Propino in both straw and grain and the Sienna was on the worse half of the 30 acre field.
 

Flat 10

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Fen Edge
First year for us growing spring barley. Have opted for Irina, on some very light, fluffy, black fenland soil. Does anyone have much experience on this soil type?
Planning on going easy on the N, and full works on the PGR.
Yes. Don't grow barley on fluffy black! If you have to do as you suggest and roll seed bed to death.
 

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