Which telehandler?

[bht]

What do you currently buckrake with?

We are currenly all round bales, which we stack in a silage pit.

Considered going to a forage wagon via a contractor for some of the silage, it would just be one wagon but pretty close. It isn't a deciding factor really as contractor could also supply a machine to buckrake.

 

[Sparkplug]

With 40 years experience in Rough Terrain Fork Lifts and Telescopic Handlers, I asked the question because many years ago I used to say to farmers, are you sure you want to use your RTFLT / Telehandler for buckraking? Putting Grass on a silage clamp is one of the most difficult jobs for a Telehandler, it strains Engines, Transmissions, Axles and Drive Components, Hydraulics and everything else - every component is working to maximum capacity and whilst engines and transmissions have greatly improved, if it was my machine I would want the local Contractor to wear his machine out not punish mine! - so without buckraking it would be easier to make a decision on a machine most suitable for all your other applications, but the view appears to be that articulated machines are not ideal for towing .

 

[ACEngineering]

To be honest that is why I was looking at something like a Schaffer or jcb tm220 as I guess it would be similar in cost. Saying that we are looking new or used so could go a bit older if it would be far better.

You can rule the schaffer out straight away. Too expensive and very poor road travel plus wont tow Jack sh1t. Unless they done something radical with this new 9640 or what ever it is but I very much doubt it plus that's same size or bigger than TM320 anyway.

 

[ACEngineering]

With 40 years experience in Rough Terrain Fork Lifts and Telescopic Handlers, I asked the question because many years ago I used to say to farmers, are you sure you want to use your RTFLT / Telehandler for buckraking? Putting Grass on a silage clamp is one of the most difficult jobs for a Telehandler, it strains Engines, Transmissions, Axles and Drive Components, Hydraulics and everything else - every component is working to maximum capacity and whilst engines and transmissions have greatly improved, if it was my machine I would want the local Contractor to wear his machine out not punish mine! - so without buckraking it would be easier to make a decision on a machine most suitable for all your other applications, but the view appears to be that articulated machines are not ideal for towing .

Artics are fine towing it's just people's driving! Tm320 tows very well it's only if you can't steer them it's an issue

Many people love driving an artic steer with a 5th wheel trailer

Just need to make sure you have a bucket on front or something that is a must as all weight on rear.

 

[Timbo]

http://parristractors.com/used-farm-machinery/details.php?source=1&id=92942

Any good ?

 

[Khan]

We've a Schaffer 9530 and a 8090. Looked at JCB 320 when upgrading our old 900 but 5k more offered in p/ex plus free bucket and Matbro carriage for the Schaffer 9530. Physically smaller than TM320, very similar size to our old Terex 250. Does all grain and straw handling over 800 acres at my brothers farm plus buckraking, cleaning out pens at mine. 8090 was bought secondhand to replace a backhoe with sheargrab, feeds 230 dairy and followers, spreads sawdust, silage pusher and scraping. Same sort of size as Matbro 200. Both good reliable machines, Deutz engine in bigger machine very frugal. Poor on road, wouldn't bother even to try towing but very good pushing power. Cabs are a bit dark but well enough screwed together. No complaints here and well supported by dealer even though he's far away. We have three farms each over three miles apart so one of the reasons for not running single machine.

Looking for some advice, currently use a loader tractor for all thing loader, but now getting too approx 1400hrs per year and it is quite cumbersome compared to a handler.

It would do all the loader work involved with 250 cattle, feeding (tmr), mucking out, bedding with a small spread a bale etc etc. Currently 1600 silage bales, but ideally something that could buckrake behind a forage wagon.

Would it be possible to lead silage or staw bales with a hydro pivot steer style machine? weidemann schaffer etc. Think a JCB TM320 would be too physically big.

Would be looking for good used or new, anybody got any experience with Weidemann 4080,5080T , schaffer 6680t or jcb 526. Concerned about the visibility on a rigid machine, but like the idea of being able to use it to lead bales back to the yard appeals.

Current tractor can provide 60lpm of oil at the third service which is adequate for the spread a bale but would like to increase. Any idea what to expect from something like a JCB 526?

 

[bht]

Tried a pivot weidemann and 526 jcb. Preferred the Pivot steer for visibility especially with over 1500 wrapped bales of silage to stack. However it seem very unstable compared to the jcb, possibly coming from the 3d pivot in the middle meant the front end was quite keen to lay over on rough ground. How would a Schaffer compare to the Weidemann, anybody got experience of both?

 

[dowcow]

Buckraking with a telehandler becomes a problem if the machine isn't big enough. If it is working lightly and isn't over stressed, it will go all day. Sometimes you have to make the trailers/wagon wait, but the temptation is to rev it harder and work it harder, and we've seen it many times on our own machines. The proper solution is either a bigger machine, or slow down the harvester, or put more machines on the clamp.

 

[sanderzo]

We have had a weidemann 4270 for four years and are getting a schaffer 9630 this week so should be able to tell you. Our weidemann has done 5200hrs and is just starting to have a few niggles but has had a hard life wrapping 6000 bales a year and feeding all the cows with a bale shear. The schaffer is the last of the old shape without all that ad blue crap, and is a slightly larger, heavier machine. The pivots feeling unstable is mostly in your head, we've never had a hint of a turnover and our yards aren't flat. We were told by someone who used to sell weidemanns that the new ones had electrical issues that weidemann weren't keen to help them with.

 

[kill]

Looking for some advice, currently use a loader tractor for all thing loader, but now getting too approx 1400hrs per year and it is quite cumbersome compared to a handler.

It would do all the loader work involved with 250 cattle, feeding (tmr), mucking out, bedding with a small spread a bale etc etc. Currently 1600 silage bales, but ideally something that could buckrake behind a forage wagon.

Would it be possible to lead silage or staw bales with a hydro pivot steer style machine? weidemann schaffer etc. Think a JCB TM320 would be too physically big.

Would be looking for good used or new, anybody got any experience with Weidemann 4080,5080T , schaffer 6680t or jcb 526. Concerned about the visibility on a rigid machine, but like the idea of being able to use it to lead bales back to the yard appeals.

Current tractor can provide 60lpm of oil at the third service which is adequate for the spread a bale but would like to increase. Any idea what to expect from something like a JCB 526?

Talking to a guy the other day that works on a fairly busy dairy farm with a pretty new large Weidemann pivot handler and this isn't their first but they have had a regular problem with them snapping in half amongst other serious problems and next time it will be another brand

 

[Headless chicken]

Tried a pivot weidemann and 526 jcb. Preferred the Pivot steer for visibility especially with over 1500 wrapped bales of silage to stack. However it seem very unstable compared to the jcb, possibly coming from the 3d pivot in the middle meant the front end was quite keen to lay over on rough ground. How would a Schaffer compare to the Weidemann, anybody got experience of both?

Schaffer will be have a bigger option and will feel a bit heavier. Only time I had brown pants with weideman was when it was well overloaded and I tried to turn. Didn’t go over though just an oh sh!t moment

 

[ColinV6]

We had a pivot weidemann on demo last year, I didn’t like it at all. Think it was a 4070? Then on day 2 of the demo, the (idiotic) electrical connector that runs through the headstock packed up, meaning changing attachments was impossible. Needless to say it went back to the dealers with its tail between its legs.