Which welding rods

[Pistonbroke]

Always got some 6013 rods for all round fixing etc. Any recommendations for best brand and any other types? No posh oven for storage but kept dry in the house. A shed builder working here years ago left me a box of green coloured rods with no branding on and I've never had as good since.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

What type of welder do you have - is it AC or DCEP/DCEN capable too?
What type of welding do you mainly do?

I burn a lot of 6011, 6013 and 7018

 

[Pistonbroke]

What type of welder do you have - is it AC or DCEP/DCEN capable too?
What type of welding do you mainly do?

I burn a lot of 6011, 6013 and 7018

Only a parweld 161 inverter. Nothing very high tech and most welding is just basic mild steel repairs and making gates etc. Photo isn't an advert for my so called welding, it was 4mm rod on a fifty metre extension lead from a 13amp socket 75m from the meters and fuses. Not bad for a little machine.

 

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[Bury the Trash]

If you can get them, try some Hilco Velveta's

I know a what you mean about those old green ones I had some given to me from a local fabricator, I reckon so e sort of lod Murex rod it was but that was back in the 90's so I cant remember really

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Only a parweld 161 inverter. Nothing very high tech and most welding is just basic mild steel repairs and making gates etc. Photo isn't an advert for my so called welding, it was 4mm rod on a fifty metre extension lead from a 13amp socket 75m from the meters and fuses. Not bad for a little machine.View attachment 905493

Ah, so you can weld, alright! I really like the 6011, I get different ones on this side of the world and I probably buy Cigweld 6011 more than anything, good "farmer's sticks" IMO; damned easy to start and easy to get the right amount of heat with a no-frills welder.
I like their distinct lack of spatter and the way they can cut through rust

 

[Pistonbroke]

I have Super 6 rods at the moment. The 4 mm seem fine but the 3.2 seem to get a lot of slag pools unless run at high amps,but then they'll blow through. I wish I knew what those old green coloured ones were,I was only fourteen at the time and I could do lovely welds every time,slag peeling by itself.

 

[Bury the Trash]

I've written this before on the forum buthere it is again...i think those aforementioned green coloured flux welding rods were Murex Satinex rods. Which arent made by murex anymore (unless theres old stock somewhere i guess ) as i think im right in sayiing they are taken over by ESAB whose sort of replacement for them is the .....
'Eurotrod RC14 6013 All positional Mild Steel Electrode'
.....and i actually think it was the 1980's i last had some..

 

[Bury the Trash]

 

[Bury the Trash]

Ah, so you can weld, alright! I really like the 6011, I get different ones on this side of the world and I probably buy Cigweld 6011 more than anything, good "farmer's sticks" IMO; damned easy to start and easy to get the right amount of heat with a no-frills welder.
I like their distinct lack of spatter and the way they can cut through rust

i dont know if you can get Hilco rods ,{ Netherlands firm} but hilco red extra''s are good at coping with Rusty / crappy/painty .
i find 6010 {a bit o a challenge to use} good for a first pass on thicker steel with a little welder. they are good for biting through galvanising (on thicker metal) as well.

 

[davidroberts30]

i dont know if you can get Hilco rods ,{ Netherlands firm} but hilco red extra''s are good at coping with Rusty /

and the way they can cut through rust

grinders are good too

 

[Bury the Trash]

grinders are good too

indeed they are, a little manouverable cordless particularly so but there's always a nook or cranny that cant be reached...

 

[welder old school]

Only a parweld 161 inverter. Nothing very high tech and most welding is just basic mild steel repairs and making gates etc. Photo isn't an advert for my so called welding, it was 4mm rod on a fifty metre extension lead from a 13amp socket 75m from the meters and fuses. Not bad for a little machine.View attachment 905493

the dark art of inverter welders and extension leads,how the hell do they do it,i can se from your welding thats a strong weld.ive been welding over 50yrs now and started with an old oil filled oxford that used to sink in the mud and pull your guts out to move about.bought an inverter welder last year that is about the size of a bag of sugar.its now my go to welder.--green rods--red--yellow-- brown. is only the color of the flux to denote the position of the welds it can be used for ie vertical overhead all positional ect--on farm work mild steel rods are good for most work.as suggested in several coments.but sometimes you need a low hydrogen rod if the metal is tensile d,find a good rod suplier Boc are helpfull and ask them what they would suggest.

 

[Bury the Trash]

@Pistonbroke i reckon Hilco red extras would suit you, they arent cheapest bottom of the range nor top, but i find them fairly forgiving in most circumstances

 

[Pistonbroke]

@Pistonbroke i reckon Hilco red extras would suit you, they arent cheapest bottom of the range nor top, but i find them fairly forgiving in most circumstances

Must be popular,a lot of places out of stock and sometimes expensive but I'll try some. If they are crap I will blame you

 

[livestock 1]

Oerlinkon?

 

[Pistonbroke]

Hilco Red Extra 3.2mm

Arc electrode products available to buy now at Noz-Alls. Universal electrode for welding in all positions, including vertical downwards. Especially suitable for construction work where the use of one single type of electrode is permissable.

www.weldingdirect.co.uk

Some on eBay £29 inc vat free delivery and super 6 for about £14 so I will get a mix

 

[Bury the Trash]

Some on eBay £29 inc vat free delivery and super 6 for about £14 so I will get a mix

that looks good,
maybe best to send the super 6 's back to China ...

 

[Pistonbroke]

that looks good,
maybe best to send the super 6 's back to China ...

The super 6's are fine for a lot of stuff,I just think there must be better available for more important jobs. Daresay I should try and learn how to use 7018 for strength

 

[Bury the Trash]

The super 6's are fine for a lot of stuff,I just think there must be better available for more important jobs. Daresay I should try and learn how to use 7018 for strength

last 7018 s i had was oerlikon supercito's to weld on a drawbar ring, they went well i thought.

recently been using common or garden 6010 rods to put gate hangings on rsj out doors with genny and parweld 161. was 2.5's and they arent that
easy to use but get more penetration (and ultimate strength ) than 6013 's would and for the same amps