General it is not but in the context on animal welfare, it is.
Who is Private Eye's "Bio-Waste Spreader"?
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General it is not but in the context on animal welfare, it is.
Whoa
Without VERY high welfare, you wont make a "profit" in any case.
But, without exception and even in very low milk prices as seen recently, I would always put my animals first ... and a healthy, well cared for animal will reward me in many ways.
Oh, and WHO is the bio-waste spreader???????????
primmiemoo
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A Private Eye Bio-Waste Spreader column from late last year bore an uncanny resemblance to a regular columnist's contribution in Farmer's Weekly. It would be wrong to say they are one and the same person, though.
My feeling is that Bio-Waste Spreader is a conglomerate. Possibly in rota. Definitely stiring, that's for sure.
DeeGee
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There have been several people writing The Agri Brigade column in Private Eye over the years. Generally they are supportive of the industry, but they also tell the truth at times which may not be so palatable to some in our industry.
Just who is whom I have no idea but I enjoy reading most articles, even if I may not always agree with them.
IMO Yobs, From the Message Boards and Dumb Britain are the best bits.
As ever, yours,
Howard McSpreader.
Just who is whom I have no idea but I enjoy reading most articles, even if I may not always agree with them.
IMO Yobs, From the Message Boards and Dumb Britain are the best bits.
As ever, yours,
Howard McSpreader.
Damn mag is turning me in to a communist. How some of the people The Eye finger get away with it, I'll never know.
I suspect that there are a number of contributors as mentioned but I do fail to see why "family farm good, big farm bad".
Perhaps it's Gove writing it?
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This point was raised at a recent DEFRA consultation on the future of subsidies. I don't get it either. I can only assume that lots of fragmented small businesses are easier to control rather than one or two mega corporations.
I'm not necessarily taking Mega Corps or big landowners but economics often dictates that scale is essential (other than niche markets) if you want to make a reasonable living from static or often falling food prices.
I would consider this to be a "family farm" in that it has been in our ownership since 1860s and it directly employs 3 family members but we have some scale in terms of cow numbers which means that we employ labour. What does this make us (apart from covered in sh!t)?
Shep
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Not yours in your avatar then.Won’t find any of them here
Northeastfarmer
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Yea, but a natural birth
From a human point of view a small family farm is a bit of a disaster. Long hours, few days off , often little or no
cover for injury or illness and quite low down in the esteem hierarchy. At least working on a large farm there will be cover for time off and no financial pressure. I know farming on your own account is the dream but it can come at huge personnel cost. Compare that with somebody in the NHS,
essentially a 3 day week [3 x 12 hour shifts] good holidays, sick pay and pension and high in the esteem stakes
Y Fan Wen
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Really?!!
Not sure which nhs you worked in, but it's not any that I know of.
Agree the sentiment; unkindest thing you could do to a son/daughter would be to encourage them to leave a salaried job on a big progressive farm, with good machinery, and paid time off; and come home to a couple of hundred acres of subsistence farming.
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A couple of hundred acres subsistence farming?! Lol...
Why is profit a bad word in the Ag community ??
suffolksmallholder
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'Tis a very long time ago but I can clearly remember the cows first day out from their winter 'indoors'. The youngsters hopped & skipped & so did the old girls. All 130 of them. It was a wonderful sight. I'm just sorry the dairy industry has got to this point.
Seems bonkers that a simple thing like letting your herd out in the spring will make or break the business. On that note I'm sorry but I'd pack up tomorrow if it was thus.
My father packed up in 1975 as expanding the herd & renewing a once state-of-the-art-parlour which was only 14 years old seemed madness. He was right.
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Seems bonkers that a simple thing like letting your herd out in the spring will make or break the business. On that note I'm sorry but I'd pack up tomorrow if it was thus.
My father packed up in 1975 as expanding the herd & renewing a once state-of-the-art-parlour which was only 14 years old seemed madness. He was right.
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glasshouse
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Rubbish
From a human point of view a small family farm is a bit of a disaster. Long hours, few days off , often little or no
cover for injury or illness and quite low down in the esteem hierarchy. At least working on a large farm there will be cover for time off and no financial pressure. I know farming on your own account is the dream but it can come at huge personnel cost. Compare that with somebody in the NHS,
essentially a 3 day week [3 x 12 hour shifts] good holidays, sick pay and pension and high in the esteem stakes
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No, he’s spot on with that .
My lad is a manager on a very large estate , which includes two dairy herds , run on Family farm lines, but with enough blokes to have decent time off and all the benefits of a big company .
I've said this once already this thread; profit generally isn't a bad word, its when you start putting profit above animal welfare that it becomes a problem