Why are families such a pain in arse.

[Blue.]

As I've said before all wills can be challenged no matter how watertight you think they are, when someone says to you that whatever happens I'm going to make sure you have nothing it makes you realise whatever is contained in a will is just words

Not farming but I know of a will that one of the daughters contested and took a third,she’d made her feelings felt when the deceased was alive and hadn’t had contact for 25 years,subsequently she was written out of the will.

 

[PostHarvest]

there were so many dependants that it was hard for the working partners to actually make much money for themselves.

I worked for a machinery dealership that folded for exactly that reason

 

[Tamar]

Get yourself a digger and an alabi..................



.............then go get your drill back !!

 

[farmerm]

I'm not planing dieing!

Well that’s your first mistake…. It’s the lack of planning that causes all the family conflict and enrichment of solicitors once you are gone!

 

[Landrover]

Whenever I read threads like this for some reason it always reminds me of the brilliant joke told by miles jupp, " I got mugged and he told me to give him all my money...i said I could but the paperwork will be a nightmare"

 

[Overby]

As mentioned previously, in other threads, there can be extra complications. What happens if the land has debt secured against it, there's not the actual value to pass on anyway. And what if one sibling has worked at home for years, paying off the debt, whilst the parents have sat essentially retired.....as soon as the debt is paid off the new value then gets given away? Families are weird....all needs sorting.

 

[Devil's advocate]

ill never understand the idea of being given a huge pile of cash for doing nothing, when i was a kid i was told if i wanted to come home and farm id get the farm, if i didnt id get nothing but wouldnt need to work before/after school each day/weekends/school holidays etc etc, i chose to do the work

if id been told id still get a huge sum of money regardless id have put my feet up and been a lazy c££t

Trouble is for some farmers sons.

Were they really worth £10,000 per hour, because that is the kind of numbers some will be talking about.

If you work 80 hours a week, which year round is a lot. How many years to get to 5 or 10 million quid.

With all your acres & cows Bossman maybe much more. What do you value yourself at per hour? what could you have acheived for your services in the current market?

Or am I a left wing commie?

 

[ford 7810]

Trust is a funny thing it certainly drags you down when you get stabbed in the back.worst thing I’ve ever done trusting my parents and brother.parants made wills years ago every thing split down the middle.then gave my brother my share of the farm over 7 years before father died,mother’s coming 90 and won’t talk about anything she,s lost really.we did‘nt own an acre before I left school we had 300 payed off acre,s before I left the Business to go on my own. I trusted them .

 

[Bossfarmer]

Admittedly it’s not going to be a large estate left, But this is exactly the reason I have refused to be given any money or property in my parents will. My sisters have already started jostling many years ago, and I want no part in it. My eldest sister got married to another no hoper last week but I had been uninvited as I didn’t respond to the WhatsApp wedding invite straight away

I have agreed to be the one who deals with the selling and dividing of Assets as they know it would be all out war should my sisters deal with it themselves. I have made a caveat that should they be disruptive or cause undue stress on my wife, then I will sell the lot without any discussion with them, and send each of Their solicitors exactly 50% off all profits.

A sniff of money often turns the most reasonable into savages.

you need to stand up for yourself this sounds far too charitable, have these sisters worked on the farm?

 

[Bossfarmer]

Trouble is for some farmers sons.

Were they really worth £10,000 per hour, because that is the kind of numbers some will be talking about.

If you work 80 hours a week, which year round is a lot. How many years to get to 5 or 10 million quid.

With all your acres & cows Bossman maybe much more. What do you value yourself at per hour? what could you have acheived for your services in the current market?

Or am I a left wing commie?

its irrelevant what im worth per hour it wasnt me that came up with the idea i was just a kid and took up the offer, its up to the owner of the farm to make whatever deal they like who says it has to be based on current market services?

 

[serf]

Or am I a left wing commie?

I thought you owned up to that in earlier posts on another thread

well the left wing bit anyhow

 

[serf]

Get yourself a digger and an alabi..................



.............then go get your drill back !!

Never knew these pillar drills were such a commodity ...
got an big old cast iron one in shed , just on my way out to get the cotton wool out and get Gerald to padlock it up .....

 

[Rich_ard]

Trouble is for some farmers sons.

Were they really worth £10,000 per hour, because that is the kind of numbers some will be talking about.

If you work 80 hours a week, which year round is a lot. How many years to get to 5 or 10 million quid.

With all your acres & cows Bossman maybe much more. What do you value yourself at per hour? what could you have acheived for your services in the current market?

Or am I a left wing commie?

So 50 years at £50/h working 80 hrs a week.boss will need to work in the inflation and interest to see if £10 m is enough

 

[glasshouse]

I've a pillar drill you can have.
You can keep your sister.

Maybe send a picture ?

 

[BRB John]

Trouble is for some farmers sons.

Were they really worth £10,000 per hour, because that is the kind of numbers some will be talking about.

If you work 80 hours a week, which year round is a lot. How many years to get to 5 or 10 million quid.

With all your acres & cows Bossman maybe much more. What do you value yourself at per hour? what could you have acheived for your services in the current market?

Or am I a left wing commie?

80 hours a week times 52 weeks is 4160 hours times £10,000/hr that's £41.6 million in one year....

Ok so let's be more realistic say it's "only" 3,500hrs a year so £1,000 an hour would get you to £3.5 million.

Or if you don't want to do it over just one year make it 40 years that would bring it down to like £25hr + living costs

Not exactly cheap but far from £10,000hr .

I like the work for a minimum wage plus shares in the farm theory...

 

[Rich_ard]

80 hours a week times 52 weeks is 4160 hours times £10,000/hr that's £41.6 million in one year....

Ok so let's be more realistic say it's "only" 3,500hrs a year so £1,000 an hour would get you to £3.5 million.

Or if you don't want to do it over just one year make it 40 years that would bring it down to like £25hr + living costs

Not exactly cheap but far from £10,000hr .

I like the work for a minimum wage plus shares in the farm theory...

That's assuming the farm was worthless when it was taken over. Never known that!

 

[Bald n Grumpy]

@Boomerang is in a lot better position than many, been forwarned about his sister's attitude and it's up to him what he does about it. And to all this b@ll@cks about the idiot who stays home only being a gfw it's already been mentioned that in some cases they actually run the farm, when is a gfw on call 24 7 to run the place but also in many cases look out for elderly parents and enable them to live the lifestyle they want instead of being cooped up in a home or a sh!tty bungalow in town.

 

[som farmer]

you need to stand up for yourself this sounds far too charitable, have these sisters worked on the farm?

totally irrelevant, if it gets to court, its equal shares, or as the judge decides.

estobbel, is one route to try, you need to convince a judge, that you worked for minimal wages, on the promise, it will be yours one day, difficult to do.

we live in an age of equality, whether we approve or not.

 

[oil barron]

So is the guy with the piller drill. Stood in a cold shed boring steel

Are you on the neep wine this morning? You’re on fire.

 

[suffolksmallholder]

Tall brunette and EVO 6 with a rollcage and I'd be happy!!!

I would prefer her to drive
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