It’s being interested in something that the problem in my book a lot of young people and older for that matter have no interest in any thing they can’t cotton on to what’s going on around them. I’ve been tractor daft since my pram days I had a direction in life to follow.theres a lot of young people around here got massive interest in farming one way or another you can see them going somewhere in life . then there’s a few with no interest in anything, just the same age and they’re still like children.
Why Are Young People Not Learning Trades/Skills?
- Thread starter bluebell
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Brilliant. His experience will put him on the top of the pile when employers are looking through CV’s or looking for someone to push through promotion.
The uni that youngest son is off to only does classes Monday to Thursday.
Friday Saturday Sunday students are expected to be doing event support with a motorsport team somewhere in Europe. The head of the faculty (ex touring car team boss) says there are too many graduates from other universities with zero hands on experience, he wants his graduates ready to hit the ground running. If I had my time over…
Swarfmonkey
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- Hampshire
My employer offers a fair few apprenticeships in a wide variety of disciplines, and there's a heck of a lot of competition for them. I suppose that it shows that some young 'uns have their heads bolted on right and realise that an apprenticeship will set them up for the future a whole lot better than some pointless BA from university will.
Netherfield
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- West Yorkshire
When I left school around 40% of the lads went in to engineering, We'd David Brown Tractors, David Brown Gears, Brook Motors, Holset turbos (now cummins), W C Holmes made blowers for feed wagons, and quite a few more smaller firms to choose from. The rest went to car mechanics, Plumbers, Electricians and an odd few went in to the woollen mills, nobody left without a job to go to.
Mick went to become an Electrician, until he was 55 or so no work for him anymore, ended up working as a postman until retiring age, Dave a good plumber, suddenly plastic quick fit and DIY slowed that trade down, he was working for a chap who offered him a partnership, a few months later the guy topped himself because a local builder screwed him by not paying him for work on a load of new houses.
When Tractors closed down there were engineers for man and dog, no-one hiring though, once that generation went by, now a shortage of good skilled men.
It was once said if you were apprenticed trained at David Browns, Vickers, Rolls Royce you could walk in to an engineering job with any firm.
Mick went to become an Electrician, until he was 55 or so no work for him anymore, ended up working as a postman until retiring age, Dave a good plumber, suddenly plastic quick fit and DIY slowed that trade down, he was working for a chap who offered him a partnership, a few months later the guy topped himself because a local builder screwed him by not paying him for work on a load of new houses.
When Tractors closed down there were engineers for man and dog, no-one hiring though, once that generation went by, now a shortage of good skilled men.
It was once said if you were apprenticed trained at David Browns, Vickers, Rolls Royce you could walk in to an engineering job with any firm.
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Pistonbroke
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And yet lots who go to uni end up in Costa or mc D.
While the plumber is booked up for 6 months charging 200 quid a day...
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- People's Republic of South Yorkshire
Insurance costs money.
School said if kids slips and hurts themselves then we could be sued..
Would you bother?
I don't need the stress.
Plus if they not allowed near machines or livestock, what cam they do?
I think this is disgraceful. When my daughter was training for an NHS job, not a nurse, she got a Bursary towards living costs, didn't have to pay university fees as it was funded by the NHS. All she had to find was her day to day living costs as the bursary just about covered the rent of her accommodation.
The nurses in training got the same, plus an extra small salary for the hours that they had to do in hospital.
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- Lincolnshire
There are loads. Plenty of younger folk undertaking "degree apprentices" as an alternative to 3 years at uni. There's no way we can pay for our two to go to uni. My eldest is going to do alevels, then looking to go into the merchant navy, or into aerospace engineering via a degree apprenticeship route.
Touch harsh. I'm currently working in education and looking to formally do my "teechur" exams, and hopefully have a little common sense by now. It will be via a bursary route for maths, but even so starting pay is only a touch more than I get in the chicken shed, and no overtime!We called ours Plantpot but not to his face.i must admit I haven’t got much time or respect for school teachers absolutely full of no common sense,and just held me back from working and making a career for myself.by the time I’d got to 13or14 I’d lost all intrest in school . and the day I turned 16 I never went back.having said all that I was a bearer for my primary school teacher this summer.
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- LINCOLNSHIRE/KENYA
I don’t know anyone who went to University and is working in a Costa or a McDs all of my children’s schoolmates seem to have found reasonable jobs that don’t involve unblocking drains. I think if I was a plumber and had done that for thirty years I think I might want better for my kids. That’s really what has happened more University places has opened things up for the children of the working classes who previously would never have thought it was possible to go to University. Parents always want better for their kids and while plumbing may be a fine occupation I doubt many plumbers would turn to their children whilst unblocking a septic system and tell them’ one day son you could be doing this’.
Whats to be done? Well you think there aren't any apprenticeships available....would it not be obvious to offer some yourself? Or perhaps you are "part of the problem".
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- Carmarthenshire, West Wales
not all heating engineers unblock toilets, likewise not all engineers wear overalls with an oily rag in their pocket. Partner said, they had an administrative assistant in their office, who previously had done a degree in finance at the uni, do administrative assistants need a degree (and £50 000 debt)?
they will learn these skills when AI takes there office jobs …….. within the next 2-5years max
proper manual trades will be pretty much the ONLY employment soon
how long ago was that ?
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- LINCOLNSHIRE/KENYA
So? If they finish their life as an administrative assistant that will be a waste. However who knows where life will take them. Maybe they'll train as a plumber to pay off their University debt maybe they'll end up at Goldman Sachs. In 2024 people aren't looking for a job for life.
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- People's Republic of South Yorkshire
Plumbers can choose their jobs.
They don't have to do septic tanks...
Plenty making a lot more than most uni graduates.
Same with sparkys and bricks.
Family member was a clothes shop manager until very recently. All the staff were uni grads on minimum wage as all done pointless degrees with no job prospects.
2wheels
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local roofer/slater had a laddie for work experience. due h&s the lad just had to stand in a sheep pen type enclosure and watch the work.
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- LINCOLNSHIRE/KENYA
University graduates will always earn more than non graduates unless they are stupid...... and go into farming.
Touch harsh not really,your currently in education and if youve been working in chicken sheds you’ll have practical experience of genuine work not like a school teacher who left school went to college or university and back to school to teach they’ve no common practical sense of the real world
And thats because they’ve learned nothing useful some of these courses have no practical future, just my opinion