Why do you farmers believe that the argument of the meat and dairy industry having a negative impact on the environment is false?

[Veganguy]

My youngest daughter is a vegan but despairs of this kind of guy who makes all vegans look like jerks

I don't like the kind of vegans like your daughter tbh.

99% chance she's only vegan for environmental reasons.

 

[Plopper]

Lets take those two statements one at a time.

Troll - 'someone who leaves an intentionally annoying or offensive message on the internet, in order to upset someone or to get attention or cause trouble'

I have not intentionally came out to annoy or offend people and doing this for the sake of upsetting people.

Unhinged - 'mentally unbalanced; deranged'

As far as I am concerned being against the enslavement and suffering of billions of animals does not make me deranged or mentally unbalanced.

genuinely feel sorry for you , sad, angry, little xxx

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Yes. But your good for forum traffic so he won't do anything about it.

Not much else going on apart from a contractor gone bust in Essex, somebody didn't want to pay to get there bales shifted, a baler quote by text message.

I’m starting to think he’s been sent in by the mods to stir the forum up and get things moving

 

[Veganguy]

Confirms what I've often thought about people like this. Not so much animal lovers as people haters

No wonder I hate people when you see the state of humanity.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

@JP1 this is clear abuse

What did you expect, a round of applause and a ribbon?

 

[Veganguy]

genuinely feel sorry for you , sad, angry, little virgin

Yeah very mature- well done.

What would happen if I called someone a sad, angry, little virgin? Would I get a message from @JP1 saying that it was inappropiate behaviour?

This forum stinks of double standards.

 

[Veganguy]

What did you expect, a round of applause and a ribbon?

Apparently I can't 'insult' people so I expect people not to be able to 'insult' me. That is the way it would be in a fair world but ofc this world is everything but fair.

 

[Gator]

I’m starting to think he’s been sent in by the mods to stir the forum up and get things moving

 

[Sid]

Yes it is as to eat that meat you know for certain that an animal was killed intentionally and cold blooded.

When eating these crops I have no idea if animal were killed and if so whether it was justified as a last resort to defend the crops. I have no choice but to eat otherwise I would die. So if there is no other way to defend these crops than killing animals that are going to eat them then that is justified.

It's like a robber coming to try and steal your food and you shooting him dead as you would die if you could not eat that food yourself.

So it's ok for @Farmer Roy to shoot those pigs that are hungry and looking for food because you have destroyed their natural food source to grow chickpeas for you, and leave them to rot, because it's wrong to eat meat,because he cant fence the crop.
Yet to keep a animal and look after it nurture if from birth to a full life fed and watered using a naturally occurring crop such as grass where I kill no other animals bar that single one is not?
So to summarise ok to murder a wild animal where I have destroyed its habitat
Not ok to humanely slaughter an animal carefully nurtured?

 

[Plopper]

Yeah very mature- well done.

What would happen if I called someone a sad, angry, little virgin? Would I get a message from @JP1 saying that it was inappropiate behaviour?

This forum stinks of double standards.

boo hoo , over sensitive due to lack of vitamins and minerals from eating too much lettuce?

 

[Veganguy]

So it's ok for @Farmer Roy to shoot those pigs that are hungry and looking for food because you have destroyed their natural food source to grow chickpeas for you, and leave them to rot, because it's wrong to eat meat,because he cant fence the crop.
Yet to keep a animal and look after it nurture if from birth to a full life fed and watered using a naturally occurring crop such as grass where I kill no other animals bar that single one is not?
So to summarise ok to murder a wild animal where I have destroyed its habitat
Not ok to humanely slaughter an animal carefully nurtured?

He didn't need to kill those pigs as there were other methods that could be used. So don't start your twisted BS.

 

[JP1]

Yeah very mature- well done.

What would happen if I called someone a sad, angry, little virgin? Would I get a message from @JP1 saying that it was inappropiate behaviour?

This forum stinks of double standards.

Your post was reported . I acted on that

I am currently on an iPhone but when I’m on a desktop I will also try to review this thread or elsewhere and warn where appropriate

No double standards with me. I may not agree with what you say but will see that you can say it whilst within the rules of the forum - same with any TFFer

 

[Chae1]

I’m starting to think he’s been sent in by the mods to stir the forum up and get things moving

Best thing can do is not reply. He/she would soon go away. Clearly no point trying to discuss matters with them.

 

[Veganguy]

boo hoo , over sensitive due to lack of vitamins and minerals from eating too much lettuce?

You're a clown mate. Enjoy being a little clown for the rest of your sad life.

 

[Boysground]

Yes it was. But not by humans, dreadful, wasteful creatures.
In nature nothing is wasted.

This largely explains why it's easy to cause division amongst internet users, the truth about humans isn't one bit convenient; however if we can form a bias then it's easy to take sides and point fingers at everyone else being "the problem", and adopt a self-righteous attitude.

Don't let this fact escape you - humans are just as much "slaves" as the animals around us

Been watching The Matrix again Pete.

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[Veganguy]

Best thing can do is not reply. He/she would soon go away. Clearly no point trying to discuss matters with them.

Because I can see through BS and put slave owners in their place.

 

[Plopper]

You're a clown mate. Enjoy being a little clown for the rest of your sad life.

you seem very depressed , not a great advert for turning vegan

 

[Veganguy]

you seem very depressed , not a great advert for turning vegan

Well it's a sad depressing world tbf.

 

[Sid]

He didn't need to kill those pigs as there were other methods that could be used. So don't start your twisted BS.

What other methods?
Fencing isnt a viable option.
So you are involved in murder. No if not buts it's still murder!

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Best thing can do is not reply. He/she would soon go away. Clearly no point trying to discuss matters with them.

When you feed a troll they grow...he’s got an importance in his life now