Why should I stay..............

[glasshouse]

A holiday home is perfectly possible.
It bcoming a retirement home is still possible if the buyer meets the requirements.

What about buying farms?

 

[le bon paysan]

What about buying farms?

You can still buy farms. Just have to jump through different hoops.

 

[digger64]

Isn't that capitalism at work? Supply and demand, there is a steady supply of people willing to pay those huge sums of money.

Its not capitalism , its more market manipulation for votes etc to avoid negative equity at all costs.
In a capitalist system rich people or those with surplus funds would invest/provide venture capital for profitable projects with risk attached with the hope of a return above the bank rate,but its more attractive to simply buy houses etc , in this system they jack up land and property values that the overheads for creative/productive businesses in the uk just are not competitive - on here many morn the loss of their local pubs ,shops ,services , live markets or abattoirs which couldnt compete with capital/income values of the land they stand on .

 

[glasshouse]

Yet they are very much in the EU.

Exactly

 

[jendan]

Price of holiday home sized cottages have dropped, so even allowing for tax you'd be better off buying here . In fact buy it in the name/s of who you'd leave it to and you'd be quids in.

You dont have the right kind of cattle with a white stripe on them.

 

[Henarar]

You dont have the right kind of cattle with a white stripe on them.

You don't get Sheeted Somerset's in France ? I knew they were behind but my goodness

 

[JP1]

You dont have the right kind of cattle with a white stripe on them.

I'd happily sit atop the Plateau de Millevaches and look at some proper Limousin or in the Cantal overlooking some Salers

In fact at my current second home I overlook some proper Hereford cattle

 

[JP1]

You don't get Sheeted Somerset's in France ? I knew they were behind but my goodness

Think you and A must be behind, I can think of half a dozen Belted herds in France run by ex pats and French

This tickled me in the schedule of the Mid Somerset show :


For my Galloway breeding friends I note there are 7 classes open including "Belted, Plain & Bigot" . I have a few friends who could comply !


www.midsomersetshow.org.uk/?fbclid=IwAR3OcD382yTIACb9f4VGca3qfREbn_-_RpHJ9iMmRQdArT5RRcFORxB0Qrk

 

[Henarar]

I'd happily sit atop the Plateau de Millevaches and look at some proper Limousin or in the Cantal overlooking some Salers

In fact at my current second home I overlook some proper Hereford cattle

Why don't you just move ? why the need for two homes ?
If there were six people that liked cream cakes and six cream cakes would you take two ?

 

[Hilly]

Why don't you just move ? why the need for two homes ?
If there were six people that liked cream cakes and six cream cakes would you take two ?

It’s not take tho is it it’s “buy or rent “ big difference

 

[Henarar]

For my Galloway breeding friends I note there are 7 classes open including "Belted, Plain & Bigot" . I have a few friends who could comply !

we have a riggit blue perhaps we should enter him as it seems anything goes

 

[JP1]

Why don't you just move ? why the need for two homes ?
If there were six people that liked cream cakes and six cream cakes would you take two ?

A Son of 10 who will still be only 20 in 10 years time. By the time my Grandchildren come along (Daughters of 30 and 29 now) , the second home will be a family home not just mine. And I may choose to let it out too. All that money goes back in to the community too

Not sure about that cream cake analogy; what have you got more than one of ?

 

[JP1]

we have a riggit blue perhaps we should enter him as it seems anything goes

I doubt they'd know the difference, try your hand

 

[Henarar]

It’s not take tho is it it’s “buy or rent “ big difference

still means someone goes without which ever way you slice it, that is unless you do slice it, the cream cake that is

 

[Hilly]

still means someone goes without which ever way you slice it, that is unless you do slice it, the cream cake that is

Maybe they sell tho so happy to go without? So he has two cakes I sell mine and buy a sausage roll which I want more than a cake everyone’s happy

 

[Henarar]

A Son of 10 who will still be only 20 in 10 years time. By the time my Grandchildren come along (Daughters of 30 and 29 now) , the second home will be a family home not just mine. And I may choose to let it out too. All that money goes back in to the community too

Not sure about that cream cake analogy; what have you got more than one of ?

lots of things many that I don't need, also quite happy to admit my greed and you ?

 

[Sharpy]

It’s not take tho is it it’s “buy or rent “ big difference

It's denying others by your actions whatever way you look at it. That building/flat/house is no longer available to someone who would utilise it 99% by someone who may only utilise it 10% of the time.

 

[JP1]

lots of things many that I don't need, also quite happy to admit my greed and you ?

I don't class a second family home as greed

 

[Hilly]

It's denying others by your actions whatever way you look at it. That building/flat/house is no longer available to someone who would utilise it 99% by someone who may only utilise it 10% of the time.

Not denying , it would be forsale to the highest bidder so everyone has a chance ,

 

[ski]

Food and shelter cant be left to the freemarket, hence farmers get subsidies.
Housing needs to be regulated too , which it was till 1988

If you were correct on this then nothing can be left to the market as what you are saying is that the state can better deliver these key items, if it can better deliver these then it must follow that the state can should take over the market completely, why would you only want the most competent to run food and shelter it would surely be better to have that level of skill delivering everything. Lets look around the the world for how to do it, Russia, didn't go so well, Poland, Czech, and all those countries that became the USSR didn't go so well, China, no thanks, Cambodia, North Vietnam, Venezuela no, sorry there isn't one example thanks. The free market is the best system so far (as opposed to 'capitalism') is not perfect, but better allocates resources and rewards labour.

Its hard to see clearly when you've a weight to lug around on your shoulder.

It follows that if area A start imposing controls of some description on second homes then this has a displacement effect and will push the marginal second home owner to secondary location where he will be more competitive, this then increases the demand in this area for controls on second home ownership, thus causing a sort of domino effect. Plus the effect of local authorities not wanting to be seen as lax on these things the spread starts.

The problem is simple, not enough homes to meet the demand, if the free market were allowed more homes would be built in the areas people want them but this can't happen as there's quota restriction via the planning permission system.

Would I want system where you are free to build just what you want, no, but I would favour a system where the presumption is that you can build rather than the current one where you can not.