Why?????

redsloe

Member
Location
Cornwall
Can't believe some of the problems here! Massey HD both knot's are on top of bale, either end. Cut the one's at the back, I normally grab two strings and pull! Do it again and again, job done!
What are people doing putting bales upside down. Deserve problems doing that.
Easier than round bales too!
 

Blue.

Member
Livestock Farmer
Can't believe some of the problems here! Massey HD both knot's are on top of bale, either end. Cut the one's at the back, I normally grab two strings and pull! Do it again and again, job done!
What are people doing putting bales upside down. Deserve problems doing that.
Easier than round bales too!
I don’t put them upside down, in the 100 or so miles between the field and my farm some end upside down.
 

vantage

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Pembs
Glad I’ve only got a wheelbarrow and only use about 100 big straw bales a year after reading about all this hassle with straw spreaders and string! :p:bag:
Majority of stock in sand cubicles, although have recently installed AstroTurf into the heifer cubicles.
 

BIG PACK

Member
Location
north yorkshire
Can’t see what the problem is ! Just make sure you put them in the chopper with the knots on the top and cut the bands at the back of the knot nearest the back of the chopper then pull the bands that are laying on top of the bale with the two knots on that way you aren’t trying to pull the knots all way round the bale . Simple really !
 
Can't believe some of the problems here! Massey HD both knot's are on top of bale, either end. Cut the one's at the back, I normally grab two strings and pull! Do it again and again, job done!
What are people doing putting bales upside down. Deserve problems doing that.
Easier than round bales too!

Bales sometimes arrive upside down if a bale chaser has been used. They are stacked the same way they come off the wagon, but it is not a huge issue to turn them over with the forks before putting them in the chopper in all honesty.

Years ago I used to trundle about with a tractor and trailed teagle straw chopper either loaded with a hesston or two quadrants. I'd cut the strings, wrap the loose ends around something solid and drive forward a bit to remove the strings.
 

Andrew

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
Location
Huntingdon, UK
Can’t with a spread a bale.

So you never end up with them upside down in the spread a bale?

As you take 5 strings off before it goes in the spread a bale, you have the chance to turn it over before you load it. In reality we can’t be bothered to get back in the forklift. Somjust cut the strings at the rotor end and tie onto the backframe. Then spread the bale and remove the strings at the end.

Bales sometimes arrive upside down if a bale chaser has been used.

Heath and Transtacker chasers leave the bales as they come out the baler ie knots on top. Arcusins leave the bale upside down
 

e3120

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Northumberland
Linkage on rear door of a lucas stops the flakes lying about the yard, with the addition of a piece of scaff. Folds flat to ground to load rounds, 2 5'6"s being a far better load.
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milkloss

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
Can’t see what the problem is ! Just make sure you put them in the chopper with the knots on the top and cut the bands at the back of the knot nearest the back of the chopper then pull the bands that are laying on top of the bale with the two knots on that way you aren’t trying to pull the knots all way round the bale . Simple really !

thank you. The clearest explanation so far (y)
 

tr250

Member
Location
Northants
Only just read about these bale chasers turning them over. But on our place they never get turned over. Had a student a few years ago bale carting and said to him did you knock any over which he said no I showed him a couple of upside down bales as proof before he admitted it. We use 20 bales a day 15 through the chopper 2 at a time with no issues. It’s harder with clapped up straw though but still not terrible
 

mengeleguru

Member
Location
Derbyshire
Double knotted bales are made that way , because they are so big the string tension in the knotter if it was tied singularly that the knotter has to hold the string while the bale is made,
. It is possible but any problem with the tying mechanism would maybe let the sting go therefore not tying he knot properly , loose bale.

With the double tie system basically 2 balls of string are tied together , one from the top & one from the bottom as the bale is made the twine develops around the bale , at the correct bale size the system trips bringing the two ends together tying them & cutting them & letting go. Whilst still holding both ends of the remaining strings in the knotter it ties them again to begin the next bale & lets them go. All in an instant.

The knotter is only tying. Not having to hang on to the string

With double tie it’s twice as as much trouble if it’s wrong but a lot more reliable. I’ve never failed to mend one yet.
 

norse

Member
Location
yorkshire
Double knotted bales are made that way , because they are so big the string tension in the knotter if it was tied singularly that the knotter has to hold the string while the bale is made,
. It is possible but any problem with the tying mechanism would maybe let the sting go therefore not tying he knot properly , loose bale.

With the double tie system basically 2 balls of string are tied together , one from the top & one from the bottom as the bale is made the twine develops around the bale , at the correct bale size the system trips bringing the two ends together tying them & cutting them & letting go. Whilst still holding both ends of the remaining strings in the knotter it ties them again to begin the next bale & lets them go. All in an instant.

The knotter is only tying. Not having to hang on to the string

With double tie it’s twice as as much trouble if it’s wrong but a lot more reliable. I’ve never failed to mend one yet.
 

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