Why?????

[jimmer]

WHY ARE THERE TWO KNOTS ON A LOT OF BIG SQUARE BALES NOWADAYS
ABSOLUTELY CHUFFING RIDICULOUS

 

[mixed breed]

WHY ARE THERE TWO KNOTS ON A LOT OF BIG SQUARE BALES NOWADAYS
ABSOLUTELY CHUFFING RIDICULOUS

Someone was telling me that it's to do with the tension on the string, over a long distance it's a big pull on the knotters so they knot it twice to reduce this... I was struggling to see the sense in it...

 

[Mursal]

Better than No Knot at all .......

 

[Chae1]

WHY ARE THERE TWO KNOTS ON A LOT OF BIG SQUARE BALES NOWADAYS
ABSOLUTELY CHUFFING RIDICULOUS

Why does it inconvenience you?

 

[Dave6170]

Are u loading them in a bedder then u cant pull the strings off because a knot is stuck?

 

[FarmerFrank88]

Why does it inconvenience you?

The strings have to be cut on the ends of the bales which can be a pain and if the bale is upside down then it's almost impossible to get the strings out unlike on a single knotted bale.

 

[Jdunn55]

It is driving me insane, only had it start happening last year, cant load the bloody straw chopper normally now, have to sit the bale on its end and then take the top half off and put that in the back just to get the bloody strings out

 

[Extreme Optimist]

It is driving me insane, only had it start happening last year, cant load the bloody straw chopper normally now, have to sit the bale on its end and then take the top half off and put that in the back just to get the bloody strings out

We put the bale on it's edge and the string comes off easily. Cut on the opposite side to the knots.

 

[Blue.]

It's ok then you come across one thats upside down in the bedder.

 

[milkloss]

WHY ARE THERE TWO KNOTS ON A LOT OF BIG SQUARE BALES NOWADAYS
ABSOLUTELY CHUFFING RIDICULOUS

I agree and have made the same comment in the past. I think it’s because, in general, the people that make the bales don’t have to use them. I now refuse to have a double knotted bale on the farm and have told the contractor.

its some balls about not Needing to drag the string around the bale as it is made. I don’t buy it and there is no easy way to take the string off one of these in a bedder apart from cut off what you can and let it wind the rest round the rotor.

 

[Jdunn55]

We put the bale on it's edge and the string comes off easily. Cut on the opposite side to the knots.

Tried that but the last half a dozen flasks then fall off the back of the straw chopper and because the straw is beautiful as soon as you pick it up it falls apart and subsequently wont fit in the straw chopper, makes me want to tear my hair out. Going to weld an extension on the chopper when I get time :/ we do cut on the opposite side but it's a pain when you cant see the knots so cut the side you think it is to only find out you've made what seems like the worst mistake of your life...

 

[HarryB97]

Joys of a Claas baler only one knotter! I cut the strings and tie a knot in the end and then another knot just below to leave a small loop and put the bale spike through the loop to pull the strings out.

 

[milkloss]

We put the bale on it's edge and the string comes off easily. Cut on the opposite side to the knots.

I’m guessing you only put one in the bedder at a time. We would rather load two as it saves a lot of running about.

 

[Jdunn55]

Speaking of which...

 

[cousinjack]

Cut the bale as close to the front of the chopper as you can, then hold bunch of string, tie in a loop and hook it on the handler.. usually works for me, even with nasty wet bales

 

[milkloss]

Maybe one of the double knot baler manufacturers would care to comment on how you get the strings off a bale that is only accessible from one end loaded in a straw spreader?

 

[Fraserb]

We dump them in on their sides, cut opposite side to knots and pull them off no hassles. If you've a decent pilot on the loader he can have the strings off before they're in the bedder.

 

[Hesston4860s]

There have been double knots on big square bales since the late 80’s early 90’s if not before !.
so it’s hardly a new concept.

 

[jondear]

It's ok then you come across one thats upside down in the bedder.

If upside down can't get knots tie to back door of chopper when half bale gone lift door let bale go forward on end lower door horizontal so string don't enter rotor simples!
If knots on top always cut on end.

 

[Andrew]

With a single knot you have to pull the string round the bale, which wears the string. A double knot the string only moves with the bale so it’s stronger. You therefore get more straw in, making transport costs cheaper.

All our square balers are double knotted ones. They have been since about 1985. We also use about 35 bales a week through a spread a bale, and have no problems taking strings off.