Winter Barley seed rate

[Clive]

where would you be on seed rate / seed / m2 on a Winter barley crop drilled week 1 or 2 of September ?

 

[bobk]

I sowed some early once , needed topping in October

 

[AlphaBravoPapaSux]

where would you be on seed rate / seed / m2 on a Winter barley crop drilled week 1 or 2 of September ?

What’s the thinking behind such early drilling?

 

[Phil P]

What’s the thinking behind such early drilling?

Probably the crap weather by the 3rd week in September!

 

[Clive]

What’s the thinking behind such early drilling?

seems to be the way to get best yields in our soils and we don’t have grassweed issues so why not ?

 

[Clive]

I sowed some early once , needed topping in October

great if it does. - will sell some sheep keep

 

[BuskhillFarm]

Remember at Greenmount them talking about trials of 8stone an acre in August and rising up weekly to “normal” sowing date. After last year would be well worth a few acres of a trial

 

[Iben]

Wouldn't cut it back much. Maybe 5%, don't think I would go 10%. Depends what you normally do and what variety, etc. Hybrids are already very low.

W barley tends to tiller well before winter at normal sowing date. So sowing early won't really alter much?

 

[Iben]

What’s the thinking behind such early drilling?

Remember. DD crop, so take forever to establish and get going.

 

[Clive]

Remember. DD crop, so take forever to establish and get going.

yep - not wasting (mineralisation) N with those pointless cultivations

 

[Brisel]

300 seeds/m2 maximum. 250 probably sufficient that early. Edited to add; that's for a conventional variety. Hybrids are 200 seeds/m2 and I wouldn't cut rates for those even sown early.

What are you doing to mitigate the BYDV risk? Watch for mildew and manganese deficiency.

 

[robbie]

I drilled some for harvest 23 on the 15th September and it was mega crop but it was over a foot tall by Christmas and a mushy mess after some frosts in January but the tillers where still there it was the old leaves that were lost.

I think I was about 150 kg/ha normally I'm 185.

 

[SJamieson]

yep - not wasting (mineralisation) N with those pointless cultivations

Is mineralised N not utilised by a crop wasted?

I guess it has a risk of being leached maybe.

 

[Woody j]

Used to go with 140-150 kg ha 1st sept. Then bydv became more of a problem

 

[fieldfarmer]

300 seeds/m2 maximum. 250 probably sufficient that early.

What are you doing to mitigate the BYDV risk? Watch for mildew and manganese deficiency.

Feeris, (bydv tolerant), I reckon.

 

[Jon 3085]

1cwt/acre

 

[Gedd]

Up here in durham i like to be sown up by 3rd week of sept

 

[Woody j]

Up here in durham i like to be sown up by 3rd week of sept

Do u have any problems with bydv?

 

[Gedd]

Do u have any problems with bydv?

No to cold up here by its out the ground soon turns backend up here on our type of ground

 

[workin f nowt]

10 stone per acre mid September if you want to drill beginning ease it back to 9 but personally think yous a bit keen