Winter Barley straw yields.

[Suppin Diesel]

Thinking of putting in some winter barley to get more straw as straw yields of the spring varieties seem to be getting less. What varieties would you recommend. Thanks

 

[DRC]

A variety called Surge, has produced the most straw here .but has lodged each time, so sticking with good old Cassia.

 

[bobk]

A variety called Surge, has produced the most straw here .but has lodged each time, so sticking with good old Cassia.

I'm seeing a trend here , I wonder what the cause is ....

 

[DRC]

I'm seeing a trend here , I wonder what the cause is ....

Ha ha, but the cassia didn't fall over ,at least not as much.

 

[bobk]

Ha ha, but the cassia didn't fall over ,at least not as much.

Cassia wouldn't go down if dropped a bus on it .

 

[SilliamWhale]

A variety called Surge, has produced the most straw here .but has lodged each time, so sticking with good old Cassia.

Im doing more Tower. Seems to get more straw than Cassia and yields similar

 

[DRC]

Im doing more Tower. Seems to get more straw than Cassia and yields similar

Never got on with Tower. Very thin grain the year I grew it.
Trying a bit of Orwell this year.

 

[Suppin Diesel]

Any more straw from a hybrid?

 

[daithi]

Tower here this year gave about 11 4×4 bales to the acre. Sorry I can't give you weight .

 

[robbie]

Cassia always seems to have a big straw yield and always stands for us despite only a sniff of ccc,lashings of muck and 140 units N.

Tower has a similar straw yield but I wouldn't say the straw is as good a quality and the grain is awful, you'll get a lot of it but it will be low bushel weight dross.

Hybrid barley I find is deceiving. It'll be chest high and if cut early will product a swath as high as the hood on the combine but it will not thrash properly and the sample will be terrible if you wait until it's fit so it thrashes out- which may be only a few days. the straw will knock up and you'll have a small swath.

The last two years the cassia has out yielded the hybrid by between 1 and 2.5 bales acre.

 

[7610 super q]

I'm thinking of sowing some for the first time too.
Talk me through it, please, step by step.
And imagine if you were doing it on a shoestring.
Planting date/ herbicide / fert / No of fungicide / PGR sprays etc, etc.

Thanks.

 

[robbie]

A lot depends on your land.

Basics are 12stone/a.c. drilled from 20 Sept to 10 October. I like to try and have all mine drilled by 4th oct (wife's birthday, that's how I remember it)

If you haven't got black grass then pdm+dff either pre em or post em with a insecticide if aphids are about, chuck a slug of mn in with every spray pass.

If it's dry roll it again in the spring.

120ish units of N split half and half with first dose in mid Feb with sulphur, the rest mid March.

2lt ccc with the first fungicide.roughly end of march/early April. If you want it cheap(ish) 0.75 fandango +ctl+ mn.

Second fungicide when the awns are half out 0.5 fandango(depends very much on disease presure)+ctl(beware of cut off date for some products)+ mg

Shut the gate till harvest.

Not knowing your farm all the above might be total cobblers but for me that would be how id do it, with the exception of maybe a bigger spend on fungicides but the above would certainly get you a crop.

 

[Brisel]

Any more straw from a hybrid?

Bazooka is tall and stiff.

 

[robbie]

Bazooka is tall and stiff.

But the straw does break up alot once combined.

 

[FarmerBruce]

Thinking of putting in some winter barley to get more straw as straw yields of the spring varieties seem to be getting less. What varieties would you recommend. Thanks

Graham winter wheat has produced more straw than any barley here

 

[7610 super q]

A lot depends on your land.

Basics are 12stone/a.c. drilled from 20 Sept to 10 October. I like to try and have all mine drilled by 4th oct (wife's birthday, that's how I remember it)

If you haven't got black grass then pdm+dff either pre em or post em with a insecticide if aphids are about, chuck a slug of mn in with every spray pass.

If it's dry roll it again in the spring.

120ish units of N split half and half with first dose in mid Feb with sulphur, the rest mid March.

2lt ccc with the first fungicide.roughly end of march/early April. If you want it cheap(ish) 0.75 fandango +ctl+ mn.

Second fungicide when the awns are half out 0.5 fandango(depends very much on disease presure)+ctl(beware of cut off date for some products)+ mg

Shut the gate till harvest.

Not knowing your farm all the above might be total cobblers but for me that would be how id do it, with the exception of maybe a bigger spend on fungicides but the above would certainly get you a crop.

Thanks.

 

[DRC]

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Thanks.

I usually drill at a lower seed rate than that. 1.25cwt acre is plenty of drilling in September into good seed rates.