Winter beans post em herbicide

[Fubar]

Beans have beaten my pre em spray. I'm mad with myself. Drill guy told me they were in 6 or 7 inches. Turns out it's nearer 3. Went to have a look today with a view to spraying tomorrow and there's 40 -50 % emerged. Gonna drop the kerb but I'm tempted to go with the clomazone. Agronomist seems to think it will bleach them a little but they should grow away, a bit like osr. Probably have to go with crawler later and possible graminicide if necessary.
Any thoughts??

 

[yellow belly]

i used crawler one year in february
snowed next day did a superb job

 

[Gong Farmer]

I'm tempted to go with the clomazone.

Er.... try it, let us know how you get on....

 

[deleted user 837354]

Er.... try it, let us know how you get on....

If the neighbours ask, that particularly variety of beans is supposed to be that colour. It's for vegans.

 

[FMC Agro Ltd]

Hello, Centium is our product so please give the technical helpline a call and a member of our technical team will be able to give you some advise. Here is our technical helpline number - 01423 205011. Many thanks.

 

[Worsall]

@FMC Agro Ltd gave me great advice with a similar situation in the spring.

 

[snarling bee]

IMO the crop would not suffer from damage by the propyzamide if they are 50% emerged. But obviously you wouldn't do that as it is not in accordance with the label.

 

[deleted user 837354]

IMO the crop would not suffer from damage by the propyzamide if they are 50% emerged. But obviously you wouldn't do that as it is not in accordance with the label.

I wasn't going to suggest such an illegal thing to do.

 

[snarling bee]

That's why I wasn't suggesting it.

 

[juke]

IMO the crop would not suffer from damage by the propyzamide if they are 50% emerged. But obviously you wouldn't do that as it is not in accordance with the label.

crackers that we cant use kerb post em when the French can on label

 

[Fubar]

I was hoping someone was going to say they had done it with no crop side effects. Rather frustrating that crawler is more expensive than kerb and and pendimethalin doesn't do as good a job.

 

[Fubar]

crackers that we cant use kerb post em when the French can on label

If its on the label in France then it suggests that it is a legal rather than a crop health requirement over here and anyone 'accidentally ' going post em won't actually harm the crop.

 

[Flat 10]

I was hoping someone was going to say they had done it with no crop side effects. Rather frustrating that crawler is more expensive than kerb and and pendimethalin doesn't do as good a job.

Pendimethlin is pre em and helps with BLW, so is in addition to rather than instead of kerb here. Not sure what it would be like post em. Defy is also pre-em only and I’m not sure if crop safety. I don’t rate crawler very much.

 

[Fubar]

I sprayed some wheat that had volunteer beans with pdm at the weekend. They will probably all survive. But if I use it post em on my bean crop I can guarantee it will kill everyone.

 

[Flat 10]

I sprayed some wheat that had volunteer beans with pdm at the weekend. They will probably all survive. But if I use it post em on my bean crop I can guarantee it will kill everyone.

Law of sod

 

[Neddy flanders]

IMO the crop would not suffer from damage by the propyzamide if they are 50% emerged. But obviously you wouldn't do that as it is not in accordance with the label.

Please dont spray Kerb on Beans post-em.
did it a few years ago, knackered them. a few survived but field yielded 20% of others.
youve been warned.

 

[Flat 10]

Please dont spray Kerb on Beans post-em.
did it a few years ago, knackered them. a few survived but field yielded 20% of others.
youve been warned.

I remember you saying that

 

[Fubar]

Please dont spray Kerb on Beans post-em.
did it a few years ago, knackered them. a few survived but field yielded 20% of others.
youve been warned.

Thanks for advice...
So how do the French use it post em without damage?Different varieties?
Looks like I'll be using Crawler later on.

 

[nxy]

As I have said on here before Kerb (and other generic propyzamide) can only be applied from 2 to 6 leaves on winter beans in France. It is not allowed pre emergence. I have often wondered if its a climate thing as it would be much too warm to apply kerb at the moment here.

I have used clomazone on beans just visible and it hit them very hard, but they got over it. No idea if it hit the yield.

I have also used and had good results from 1 litre/ha of Nirvana on beans that have two to four leaves visible and it works out cheap too!

We have a product here called Corum which is 480 g/L bentazone and 22.4 g/L imazamox. (its expensive). Its the standard post emergence spray it you miss the pre emergence.

Pendimethaline is legal post emergence at 3 litres/ha but BASF for example do not recommend it.

 

[czechmate]

As I have said on here before Kerb (and other generic propyzamide) can only be applied from 2 to 6 leaves on winter beans in France. It is not allowed pre emergence. I have often wondered if its a climate thing as it would be much too warm to apply kerb at the moment here.

I have used clomazone on beans just visible and it hit them very hard, but they got over it. No idea if it hit the yield.

I have also used and had good results from 1 litre/ha of Nirvana on beans that have two to four leaves visible and it works out cheap too!

We have a product here called Corum which is 480 g/L bentazone and 22.4 g/L imazamox. (its expensive). Its the standard post emergence spray it you miss the pre emergence.

Pendimethaline is legal post emergence at 3 litres/ha but BASF for example do not recommend it.

I am with a new man this year.
He had me use nivarna mixed with Challenge (which is maybe not available in uk?). Have you ever tried that?